Look, we're used to Florida State starting slow - it's become a bit of a tradition - but with the demolition job Florida put on them Wednesday, and the fact that they were coming off of two other losses, what to make of Leonard Hamilton's bunch?
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There's no shame in losing to a Top Ten team, but losing the way FSU did is pretty bad.
There's really no reason to lose by 25, not for a program which believed they had drawn to rough parity with Duke and UNC.
But lose they did, and by 25. Only Michael Snaer got into double figures, and just barely with 10.
At 4-4, they have a lot to prove.
As unproductive as Florida State's offense was, though, Michael Snaer would have scored 25% of Tennessee's points against Virginia.
Virginia won, 46-38, but over the last two games, the Vols have scored just 74 points.
It's not necessarily offensive incompetence; both coaches (Tony Bennett and Cuonzo Martin) really stress defense.
Joe Harris and Akil Mitchell scored 13 each for the Cavs; Virginia held Tennessee to 28.8% from the floor.
You'd think in a game this focused on defense that there would be a lot of foul shots, but if so you'd be thinking wrong: the teams combined for just 18 foul shots. They also combined to shoot 4-29 from three point range.
Ugly, schmugly: Virginia is 7-2 and has a shot at entering conference play at 11-2. Their first six opponents are UNC, Wake, Clemson, FSU, Virginia Tech and BC.
You know what? They have a shot at winning all those games too. It's unlikely, but UNC and FSU are not exactly vintage editions.
Wake Forest beat Scott Cherry's High Point team by 11, but as Dan Collins points out, High Point killed the taller Deacs on the boards, 41-32, and grabbed 16 offensive rebounds.
After the game, Jeff Bzdelik, again, refused to take responsibility for his team's failures, albeit failures in a win. When asked about the poor rebounding, he said "Ask them. We work on it. Ask them.''
In other words: it's not my fault. And with that attitude, it won't be much longer.
Former State guard Ryan Harrow is having a tough time cutting it at Kentucky, where, apparently, he isn't dealing well with John Calipari's rather intense coaching style.
Everything is swell there while they're winning, but get a bit of pressure and it snowballs.
Oh yeah, Maryland crushed UMES by like a zillion.