LOST 2/21 Spoilers

[365Duke]

Looks like food is an issue, Locke told Ben " These are the last two eggs".

Locke has turned into the new Ben. ugh.

Jack is willing to purger himself to save the woman her doesn't love:rolleyes:


Kate's "him" is her son. And it's Aaron!:eek:

[365Duke]

is this the first verification of time we have had off the island. How old was the baby? How far time wise does that mean the bearded Jack is in the flash forwards? I guess we still won't know because we do not know if they left the island a week after we see them on it, or 1+ years later.:rolleyes:

[Jarhead]

We got an answer to a puzzle from an flash-forward a couple of weeks ago. When Jack tried to convince Kate to go back to the island with him, she said no, as I recall, and added, "...he's waiting for me." Some were assuming that the "he" was sawyer, but now we know it wasn't. This was the first disclosure of her son. Also, we have a possible answer to why she said no to Jack's plea. She had committed to stay in the jurisdiction during her probation. This whole show was mostly unexpected to me, but I enjoyed it. It added some new questions, too. Like the 3.2 million. Why was Miles so specific? Why was Locke so agitated by that specific amount?

[feldspar]

Jack is willing to purger himself to save the woman her doesn't love:rolleyes:

Didn't you watch the second-to-last scene with Jack and Kate?

[riverside6]

Is Aaron considered one of the Oceanic 6? In last week's previews it said another one would be revealed, right? Who else could it have been?

Oh, and please don't scooby-doo me, ok?

[JasonEvans]

Is Aaron considered one of the Oceanic 6? In last week's previews it said another one would be revealed, right? Who else could it have been?

Oh, and please don't scooby-doo me, ok?

Scooby-doo you? Huh?

I do not think Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6 as he was not on the plane when it crashed, he was born after the crash. I think, if you listen carefully, last week's promos said "more will be revealed about one of the Oceanic 6" not "another of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed." We really had not had a Kate flashforward yet. This was her post-rescue story.

More later...

--Jason "I actually have not seen the episode yet, but knew from a friend about what would happen in it" Evans

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Kate's "him" is her son. And it's Aaron!:eek:

So what happened to Claire? I doubt she willingly gave up Aaron. Did she die or did Kate steal Aaron? If Claire was healthy and wanted to stay on the Island, I doubt she would willingly give him up just so he could live a "normal" life.

I guess he could be considered one of the Oceanic 6, although he wasn't on the original manifest, now was he!

Ben must know why $3.2 million is the exact number. Some day, we will too.

[365Duke]

Didn't you watch the second-to-last scene with Jack and Kate?

I'm sorry, I thought my :rolleyes: <<<<<<<<<<<<ROLLEYES



was an indication I was being facetious about the love thing

[365Duke]

Ozzie sez

So what happened to Claire? I doubt she willingly gave up Aaron. Did she die or did Kate steal Aaron? If Claire was healthy and wanted to stay on the Island, I doubt she would willingly give him up just so he could live a "normal" life.


There's too many possibilities there. She could send A on ahead to get him off the island first. She may even hear from Ben that the father wants him. Who knows, one of those wait and sees.



I guess he could be considered one of the Oceanic 6, although he wasn't on the original manifest, now was he!


Good point, but I could see how A could be counted. The media swirl who not care about the manifest, just how many came back. But I do not think they counted him.



Ben must know why $3.2 million is the exact number. Some day, we will too.


Hmm. Miles would tell us, but he has something stuck in his throat:eek:

[riverside6]

Scooby-doo you? Huh?

You'll get it when you see the episode.

[Pacer]

The other thing that A's attribution to Kate gives us is a bit of a clue as to how much longer they will be on the island. The federal records regarding Kate's extradition would likely note that, at a minimum, she was not "showing" a pregnancy at the time of her capture and transport. So, figure that she could be at least 3 months pregnant without showing. So, if she is rescued with Aaron being thought as her kid, that would necessitate at least 6 months on the island for him to be born... I think we're at about 3 months now. Then, you need a little more time to make it believable that the size of the kid is ambiguous enough to not be able to say that the size of the kid doesn't jive with the stated timeline.... To me, that means that they would have to be on the island another 5 months or so.

However, we know that something is wonky with time.... so maybe that would take care of this problem...

Furthermore, Kate's statement to Jack that she understands that he doesn't want to see Aaron implied that there was nefariousness involved in separating him from Claire... So, its likely not as simple as Claire dying. Well, I guess it could also be due to Aaron being his nephew from his father's affair, if that bothers Jack.

[blublood]

Well, this heavily suggests that the character who is supposed to die this season is Claire - but on the other hand, this is now so obvious that if that's what really happens, I'll be disappointed.

I thought this was a blah episode on the whole and I really don't like how our heroes are morphing into the Others. The only intriguing thing (well, o.k., besides that Daniel apparently has weird memory loss) to me was how obviously taken with Kate Jack is after the trial. You certainly get the vibe that if it weren't for whatever complications arose with Aaron and Claire, that they would be together - yet in their first flash-forward, Jack has to practically beg her to meet him as she has apparently kicked him out of her life. Is it just because of his drug addiction? That seems like too one-dimensional of an answer for Lost.

Also, I thought it was kind of creepy that Jack keeps popping up to check in with his fellow O6 buddies.

[365Duke]

I just thought of something else.

Is Jack resisting seeing Aaron because of how Kate got her, OR does this all tie back to the kid himself.

Remember when the fortune teller flipped out when reading Clair's palm. He insisted that something was screwy, and she needed to get out now! Is the "something wrong" that the baby would be plane wrecked, or is their something "special" about the kid.:eek: As in powers

[Mudge]

I do not think Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6 as he was not on the plane when it crashed, he was born after the crash. I think, if you listen carefully, last week's promos said "more will be revealed about one of the Oceanic 6" not "another of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed." We really had not had a Kate flashforward yet. This was her post-rescue story.


Well, Jason, revealing your views about the when life begins (and the right to life, perhaps)-- I'd have understood if you said that Aaron wasn't listed as a passenger on Flight 815-- but to say that he was not on the plane when it crashed?! From the size of Claire at the time of the crash, this child was well into the 3rd trimester by the time Claire boarded that plane, and was likely viable outside the womb from the moment she boarded-- Aaron was most certainly ON that plane.

I still think that Michael or Walt could be the other of the Oceanic 6 who has returned-- don't know which, if it is now not both of them-- but my bet would be on Michael, not Walt (just a feeling that Walt has some special tie to the island, and stays there for some reason, given his ghost-like appearances around the island.)

By the way, did everybody else see that Kate's child would be Aaron coming a mile away-- I knew as soon as Kate's mom said she wanted to see the kid (after all those scenes with Kate and Claire and Aaron) that the kid would be Aaron, not Kate's own.

[jimbonelson]

did i not see in a ealier episode that jack and claire were half bother ans sister which would make jack a uncle. no

[JasonEvans]

did i not see in a ealier episode that jack and claire were half bother ans sister which would make jack a uncle. no

Yup-- but I don't think Jack or Claire know this.

-JE

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Well, Jason, revealing your views about the when life begins (and the right to life, perhaps)-- I'd have understood if you said that Aaron wasn't listed as a passenger on Flight 815-- but to say that he was not on the plane when it crashed?! From the size of Claire at the time of the crash, this child was well into the 3rd trimester by the time Claire boarded that plane, and was likely viable outside the womb from the moment she boarded-- Aaron was most certainly ON that plane.


Aaron didn't need his own seat or ticket, so he wasn't listed on the plane's manifest, regardless of what you or Jason or I believe. Let's not make this thread go to the PPB.

[JasonEvans]

So, if Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6 then we know all of them except one.

1- Jack
2- Kate
3- Hurley
4- Sayid
5- Aaron
6- ???

I really thought 5 and 6 would be Sun and Jin, which is (in theory) the only way she can live. I suppose #6 could still be her if Jin lets her go ahead of him and something prevents him from following.

Ahh well, we'll know in a few weeks, I think.

--Jason "I read in EW that the producers say they will reveal who is in the coffin by the end of this season... dollars to doughnuts it is Ben" Evans

[Ignatius07]

Yup-- but I don't think Jack or Claire know this.

-JE

Whoa, what?!? I do NOT remember this - obviously Jack's dad was all over the place... anybody remember what exactly happened?

[jzp5079]

During Jack's testimony - he said there were 8 survivors. Assuming 2 died - or maybe Sayid or someone pretended they were dead (this would make it easier for Sayid to make assassinations, unless he mentioned he was well known in his episode this season)

maybe claire died and then found out he was Claires half brother - and thats why he can't stand to see the baby. I suppose all these mysteries will be revealed over the next 2 and 1/2 seasons

[JasonEvans]

Whoa, what?!? I do NOT remember this - obviously Jack's dad was all over the place... anybody remember what exactly happened?

It was the middle of last season. The episode was titled Par Avion. Here is a description (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Par_Avion#Flashbacks)courtesy the fabulous Lostpedia.

--Jason "Jack and Claire DO NOT know they are related at this point and I am not sure how they would figure it out" Evans

[JasonEvans]

During Jack's testimony - he said there were 8 survivors. Assuming 2 died - or maybe Sayid or someone pretended they were dead (this would make it easier for Sayid to make assassinations, unless he mentioned he was well known in his episode this season)


Sayid was a known member of the Oceanic 6. Recall that when he assassinated the guy on the golf course that the guy recognized him and when Sayid first met The Economist's assistant she recognized him and he told her he would tell her where she knew him from if she had dinner with him.

Clearly, Sayid is a well-known face because he is one of the very famous Oceanic 6.

As for the "8" survivors Jack talks about-- recall that Jack mentions that the marshal survived and that Jack says he spoke to the marshal about Kate's fugitive status. So, that would be 7 survivors. I am betting that the other survivor is Claire. That is how they explain Aaron. Claire had the baby and (according to the story told by the Oceanic 6) Claire died in childbirth or something like that.

By that math you had 8 total survivors with 2 dying after the crash.

How does that work for ya?

--Jason "http://images.lostpedia.com/images/thumb/f/f5/4x04_Bite_down.jpg/180px-4x04_Bite_down.jpg" Evans

[OZZIE4DUKE]

As for the "8" survivors Jack talks about-- recall that Jack mentions that the marshal survived and that Jack says he spoke to the marshal about Kate's fugitive status. So, that would be 7 survivors. I am betting that the other survivor is Claire. That is how they explain Aaron. Claire had the baby and (according to the story told by the Oceanic 6) Claire died in childbirth or something like that.

By that math you had 8 total survivors with 2 dying after the crash.

How does that work for ya?

--Jason "http://images.lostpedia.com/images/thumb/f/f5/4x04_Bite_down.jpg/180px-4x04_Bite_down.jpg" Evans

I don't remember or missed Jack saying that. When did he say it? Not that I'm going to go looking for it.

What is the image you link? It's too dark to make out.

[mr. synellinden]

It was the middle of last season. The episode was titled Par Avion. Here is a description (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Par_Avion#Flashbacks)courtesy the fabulous Lostpedia.

--Jason "Jack and Claire DO NOT know they are related at this point and I am not sure how they would figure it out" Evans

Reading that Lostpedia summary, does anyone think that the note on the gull could prove relevant down the road? Could that be found and be evidence against the Oceanic 6 that more than 8 survived the crash?

This also caught my attention:

When Kate says that she can't understand why they would remain on the Island willingly, Mikhail replies that they simply are not capable of understanding. Upon further questioning, he says that only those on the list are able to understand their reasons ...

[Duvall]

Reading that Lostpedia summary, does anyone think that the note on the gull could prove relevant down the road? Could that be found and be evidence against the Oceanic 6 that more than 8 survived the crash?


Doesn't really look like there's anything in the note (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Gull) that's inconsistent with what we know of the Oceanic Six's cover story.


"To whom it may concern: We are survivors of Oceanic Flight 815. We have survived on this island for 80 days. We were six hours into the flight when the pilot said we were off course and turned back toward Fiji. We hit turbulence and crashed. We've been waiting here all this time--waiting for rescue that has not come. We do not know where we are. We only know you have not found us. We've done our best to live on this island. Some of us have come to accept we may never leave it. Not all of us have survived since the crash. But there is new life, too, and with it, there is hope. We are alive. Please don't give up on us."

[DevilAlumna]

As for the "8" survivors Jack talks about-- recall that Jack mentions that the marshal survived and that Jack says he spoke to the marshal about Kate's fugitive status. So, that would be 7 survivors. I am betting that the other survivor is Claire. That is how they explain Aaron. Claire had the baby and (according to the story told by the Oceanic 6) Claire died in childbirth or something like that.


Wha???

Jack said during his court testimony, that he never spoke to the marshall, b/c the marshall didn't survive the crash. Jack learned of Kate's fugitive status b/c Kate told him herself, and Jack didn't believe her b/c of her heroic actions and efforts to save them.

[feldspar]

Wha???

Jack said during his court testimony, that he never spoke to the marshall, b/c the marshall didn't survive the crash. Jack learned of Kate's fugitive status b/c Kate told him herself, and Jack didn't believe her b/c of her heroic actions and efforts to save them.

You're right. Jack's lying about the Marshall not surviving the crash and not ever having spoken with him.

[Jarhead]

I remember the US Marshall from the early flashbacks about Kate, but I do not remember him on the island. Did he survive the crash, or did he not?

[jimbonelson]

he did not survive the crash

[Duvall]

I remember the US Marshall from the early flashbacks about Kate, but I do not remember him on the island. Did he survive the crash, or did he not?

The Marshal (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Edward_Mars) survived the crash with mortal injuries. Jack euthanized him when it became clear that he wouldn't recover, but after he had a chance to warn Jack about Kate.

[Pacer]

I agree that the marshall survived the crash with mortal injuries... he was kept in the medical tent... but I seem to recall that Jack was away every time he awoke... or wasn't awake long enough to say more than "where is she?" I seem to recall that anything spoken by the marshall longer than that was to someone else like Sawyer or Hurley...

[jimbonelson]

sorry for the misinformation:p
The Marshal (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Edward_Mars) survived the crash with mortal injuries. Jack euthanized him when it became clear that he wouldn't recover, but after he had a chance to warn Jack about Kate.

[Jarhead]

Thanks, Duvall. I had forgotten that.

[BluDevilGal]

I am betting that the other survivor is Claire. That is how they explain Aaron. Claire had the baby and (according to the story told by the Oceanic 6) Claire died in childbirth or something like that.

At first I wondered about that, but I can't see any way that Kate would be allowed to keep the baby unless people thought it was hers. She's a murder suspect and a fugitive. If the authorities know that baby isn't hers, then he's being taken and given to someone related to him. While they could make up a nice story about the dieing mother asking her to raise the baby, it wouldn't hold up legally once they are back in the real world. Right?

[jzp5079]

Claire wanted to give up the baby anyways... it was why she was on the plane... maybe she did it to help Kate?

Also, since I have fun reading these, I thought you guys would as well.

look at http://lostmysteries.blogspot.com/

answers section is pretty good too.

[johnb]

The lawyer wanted to bring in the boy in order to demonstrate Kate's character.

Given the boy's age and the fact that Kate wasn't pregnant at the time of the crash, unless there is some sort of explanatory time warp, she must have become pregnant on the island. Who would be the father, since it can't be Jack? Does that make Sawyer one of the 8? Or one of the 6? But what would that have to do with "character," since it's pretty ordinary for women to bond with their children. If she adopted Claire's infant baby after Claire's death, risking her life in the process, tha would show character, though it wouldn't explain why the courts didn't just take the baby away from an apparent felon and give it to one of C's relatives in Australia. Nor would it explain why Jack--who thrives on facing difficulties--is unable to even look at the little kid. Did he contribute to Claire's death? Is it Sawyer's baby (and "Aaron" is just a namesake?)? Is the earthly "Aaron" some sort of brotherly figure to the island "Aaron?" If so, does that make one of them Moses, who was Aaron's brother? Could Aaron be integral to the time travel thing, perhaps even the father of the whole shebang, making him a sort of Jesus born to someone who was never even pregnant? This could be Kate, but it could be Claire, who bore her child in a more remote place than a barn in Bethlehem. And if Aaron becomes so vital, could he be the father of the island, the chosen one (akin to the priestly Cohen's, who descended from Aaron and whose sign to the congregation is the Star Trek hand sign made up by two real-life Jews, Kirk and Spock), leading to the possibility that Aaron is Ben as a baby, which might explain why Ben cares so much for the children of the island, why Jack wouldn't want to look at little Ben, and why Jack might have asked Kate whether or not she had attended the funeral of the guy in the casket.

Hmm, at this point, went looking on google for benjamin, aaron cross references and came across this theory more cogently explained 6 months ago.

http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2007/may/08/aaron-ben-or-jacob/

[JasonEvans]

You're right. Jack's lying about the Marshall not surviving the crash and not ever having spoken with him.

100&#37; my bad. I was sleepy when I watched and I missed Jack saying the Marshall had died in the crash. I did hear Jack say that he knew about Kate being a fugitive and thought Jack must have told the real story about the Marshall (he died after Jack tried to save him).

I still think the fact that they mention 8 people survived but only 8 got off the island is going to be very significant. I wonder if when Jack, Kate, and the rest of the "Oceanic 6" finally get off the island if they will have 2 bodies with them as well.

--Jason "the image in my sig was a smaller version of the pic below" Evans

http://images.lostpedia.com/images/thumb/f/f5/4x04_Bite_down.jpg/800px-4x04_Bite_down.jpg

[JasonEvans]

Claire wanted to give up the baby anyways... it was why she was on the plane... maybe she did it to help Kate?

Also, since I have fun reading these, I thought you guys would as well.

look at http://lostmysteries.blogspot.com/

answers section is pretty good too.

Be VERY VERY CAREFUL when navigating around that site. It has a spoiler section and a rumors section that are loaded with primo info. If you do not want to be spoiled, stay away from DarkUFO.blogspot.com!!

--Jason "does anyone watch the enhansed episodes at 8p on Thursdays?" Evans

[jzp5079]

the section i linked you to is just questions that have arisen from the episodes with no spoilers.

Stick to that section and the answers section - which are previous mysteries that have been solved.

[HaveFunExpectToWin]

It was the middle of last season. The episode was titled Par Avion. Here is a description (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Par_Avion#Flashbacks)courtesy the fabulous Lostpedia.

--Jason "Jack and Claire DO NOT know they are related at this point and I am not sure how they would figure it out" Evans

Since Jack's dad seems to still have a presence on the island (hanging with Jacob in the rocking chair), it's very possible he could go talk to Jack or Claire. Or perhaps or Ghost Whisperer will talk to him and then tell Jack/Claire.

[III]

I feel like the story that Jack gave about only 8 people surviving the crash is the "canned story" that the Oceanic 6 had to agree to tell in order to leave the island, which an apparently powerful group of people don't want people knowing about. I still think only 6 people leave the island, not 8.

[DevilAlumna]

Slightly OT, but as I'm reading this last message, there's a sidebanner ad for "Activating Evolution, Suresh's Dream Study." I'm tempted to click on the ad and see where I end up.

Interesting, that the "Heroes" advertising folk are tying it to Lost.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

--Jason "the image in my sig was a smaller version of the pic below" Evans


Thanks Jason. Although it still appears dark on my screen, I can now see that it is Miles with a hand grenade in his mouth. That must hurt his teeth. Hope he doesn't need to cough...

[HaveFunExpectToWin]

Does the canned story Jack gave regarding the 8 survivors mean that the rest of the Losties are alive and well on the island and that the 6 are protecting them and the island by using the cover story? Would this be the reason that Sayid is going around killing members of whatever high powered organization, to protect the Losties on the island? Also, why have a story about 8 of them? Why not 10, or 11? What's the significance of the 2 members not part of the O6?

If Claire is alive and well in the future, why would she give Aaron to Kate to take care of back in the States? I'm pretty sure she won't be alive for long. But as was suggested earlier, that's so obvious, that it can't be right.

Miles' extortion of Ben is very interesting. That would make him a hired gun with no real allegiance to the Abaddon mission, as I guess most of these Freighties are. Weird.

[365Duke]

If nothing else, this show should stop all viewers that had a urge to read the last few pages of a book just to know the ending:D

[Pacer]

Also, with respect to the trial... since when does the defense put on their witnesses (Jack) before the prosecution puts on their case in chief which would include their star witness (mom)?

nit-picking, I know.

[Clipsfan]

The Marshal (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Edward_Mars) survived the crash with mortal injuries. Jack euthanized him when it became clear that he wouldn't recover, but after he had a chance to warn Jack about Kate.

I watched the first seasons recently; the marshal survived the crash with serious injuries. Sawyer tried to kill him by shooting him, but missed his heart, so Jack had to finish the job. I believe they found out about Kate because of a document in the Marshal's jacket, although the Marshal did say something to Jack (I can't remember exactly what).

I've finally caught up, now I have to wait a week in between episodes!

[blublood]

Getting back to the issue of creepy palm-reading guy, I'm fairly confident that when he did the second, real reading, he said that the child Claire was carrying raised by anyone but her, under anyone else's influence would be "dangerous." (I haven't gone back to watch, but I'm pretty sure that's how the conversation went) At the time, we were just concerned that the Others were going to take Aaron, but you'd think that this would also extend to Kate raising him. This being the case, I think we're going to find out that Claire is still alive back on the island and that the "mistake" made when she sent Aaron with Kate is going to be part of what eventually impels Kate to go back.

[365Duke]

Getting back to the issue of creepy palm-reading guy, I'm fairly confident that when he did the second, real reading, he said that the child Claire was carrying raised by anyone but her, under anyone else's influence would be "dangerous." (I haven't gone back to watch, but I'm pretty sure that's how the conversation went) At the time, we were just concerned that the Others were going to take Aaron, but you'd think that this would also extend to Kate raising him. This being the case, I think we're going to find out that Claire is still alive back on the island and that the "mistake" made when she sent Aaron with Kate is going to be part of what eventually impels Kate to go back.

Good memory!

I agree that the palm reading is going to play somewhat of a role later. I also agree that future problems with A are also going to cause a change of heart for Kate:eek:

[oso diablo]

re: $3.2 million...

code language for Ben from his "man on the boat"? also, "3 days" and "one week" might also be code.

[mr. synellinden]

re: $3.2 million...

code language for Ben from his "man on the boat"? also, "3 days" and "one week" might also be code.

I like where your head's at.

Miles could easily be the man on the boat. It would certainly explain why he has a picture of Ben. And it would fit with what we've heard that their mission is not really to find Ben.

[Dukerati]

I think the whole world believes that Aaron is Kate's son. During the episode, Aaron was repeatedly referred to as her son. If the world knew the existence of Claire, I don't think they would have kept on using that title for Aaron. As for potential reasons why Jack can not stand to look at Aaron, what if Jack had to sacrifice Claire for Aaron and/or Kate? After finding out she was his half-sister, Jack had to "sacrifice" her in some way. So everytime he sees the boy, he sees Claire and he can not stand it.

I still think Micheal/Walt have pivotal roles to play, and my crazy theory for the day is that they will blow the Oceanic Six story out of the water by revealing themselves to the press and debunking their stories. I have no support for this theory, just a hope really.

As for the Faraday memory thing, we know that Daniel is sick. Maybe he came to the island hoping for a cure?

[Clipsfan]

I think the whole world believes that Aaron is Kate's son. During the episode, Aaron was repeatedly referred to as her son. If the world knew the existence of Claire, I don't think they would have kept on using that title for Aaron. As for potential reasons why Jack can not stand to look at Aaron, what if Jack had to sacrifice Claire for Aaron and/or Kate? After finding out she was his half-sister, Jack had to "sacrifice" her in some way. So everytime he sees the boy, he sees Claire and he can not stand it.

I still think Micheal/Walt have pivotal roles to play, and my crazy theory for the day is that they will blow the Oceanic Six story out of the water by revealing themselves to the press and debunking their stories. I have no support for this theory, just a hope really.

As for the Faraday memory thing, we know that Daniel is sick. Maybe he came to the island hoping for a cure?

At what point did they say that it was a memory thing? I must have missed that, as I thought that he was trying to tap into the island's powers for ESP.

[mr. synellinden]

At what point did they say that it was a memory thing? I must have missed that, as I thought that he was trying to tap into the island's powers for ESP.

I was wondering that too. In that scene where he is trying to guess the three cards, the consensus seems to be that he was trying to remember cards he had just seen. My take was that he was trying to guess them through some sort of psychic powers - like the scene in Ghostbusters.

[Pacer]

At what point did they say that it was a memory thing? I must have missed that, as I thought that he was trying to tap into the island's powers for ESP.

When administering the test, Charlotte uses the word "remember" I don't recall the quote, but she makes it clear that she's testing memory. The lostopedia pages for both Charlotte and Daniel both describe the event as a memory test.

[mr. synellinden]

When administering the test, Charlotte uses the word "remember" I don't recall the quote, but she makes it clear that she's testing memory. The lostopedia pages for both Charlotte and Daniel both describe the event as a memory test.

However, it might not be a short term memory test. It might be a test of memory affected by time travel.

[Clipsfan]

However, it might not be a short term memory test. It might be a test of memory affected by time travel.

That's one possible explanation. I don't read lostopedia, having just finally watched the show over the last couple months, but I really had the impression that it was a test into the powers of the island. This is probably due to the fact that they're scientists. I watched it this morning, but I was sort of tired so I may have missed some of the significance.

I'm still going to stick with my thought that it wasn't a straight memory test. Is there anything which says that lostopedia is infallible?

[Pacer]

You asked when they stated that it was a memory thing... I just attempted to direct you to where the basis for that is located. I put forth Lostopedia as a generally accurate source that backs it up in stead of me actually finding the quote. Lostopedia is not infallible...

It may be more than a memory test... but nonetheless, from the dialog it is a memory test of some type... If I was testing someone for ESP, I wouldn't ask them to try and "remember" the cards...

[mr. synellinden]

I just watched that scene again. Charlotte looks at her watch and then says, "Time. Okay, tell me, what to do you remember?" I think the fact that she says 'time' first is significant. As if him being able to remember for a certain amount of time is what is is important. Not just the remembering.

He then gets two out of three right and she says, "Two out of three. That's progress." Daniel responds, "Three cards Charlotte. Is that progress?" Meaning is it progress that I can't remember all three cards?"

[gus]

I just watched that scene again. Charlotte looks at her watch and then says, "Time. Okay, tell me, what to do you remember?" I think the fact that she says 'time' first is significant. As if him being able to remember for a certain amount of time is what is is important. Not just the remembering.

He then gets two out of three right and she says, "Two out of three. That's progress." Daniel responds, "Three cards Charlotte. Is that progress?" Meaning is it progress that I can't remember all three cards?"

I think the off-island scenes of the "rescuer" we see may be flash-forwards, not flash-backs (except the naomi and creepy pretending-to-be-an-oceanic-representive-guy). He is clearly upset about the "discovery" of the wreckage, but can't remember why.

Also, Naomi refers to the three as "a ghostbuster, anthropologist and a head-case" right?

[alteran]

--Jason "does anyone watch the enhansed episodes at 8p on Thursdays?" Evans

What's up with the "enahnced" episodes? How are they "enhanced?"

[mbd1mbd1]

You remember Popup Video from VH1 in the 90's?

Enhanced like that.

[JasonEvans]

New info-- Damon Lindelhoff says in an interview that the cancellation of Cane will allow them to bring Nestor Carbonell back to Lost. Sweet!!!

In an interview with the NY Post, the producers also say that season 4 is about the Oceanic 6 and how they get off the island, season 5 is about why they need to get back, and season 6 is about what happens when they get back. They also say some very signficant mysteries will be answered in episode 7. Cool!!

--Jason "me love my Lost" Evans

[alteran]

You remember Popup Video from VH1 in the 90's?

Enhanced like that.

Thanks. I guess the rerun before the season premier was "enhanced." Some interesting stuff, but not sure if it's worth rewatching the episode for.

[BCGroup]

I always like to look at one of the blogs over on USAToday--not the full discussion, but when she pulls out the top postings.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/popcandy/2008/02/lost-in-a-fla-2.html#more

This week, I found this one to be interesting:
"The guy playing Duncan, Kate's attorney in ep "Eggtown," once played a character named Jack Shepard in the movie "Frequency."That movie contained communicating between time periods. And there are 31 minutes unaccounted for on the island (remember the payload from last week). Interesting."

[Mudge]

New info-- Damon Lindelhoff says in an interview that the cancellation of Cane will allow them to bring Nestor Carbonell back to Lost. Sweet!!!

In an interview with the NY Post, the producers also say that season 4 is about the Oceanic 6 and how they get off the island, season 5 is about why they need to get back, and season 6 is about what happens when they get back. They also say some very signficant mysteries will be answered in episode 7. Cool!!

--Jason "me love my Lost" Evans

How ironic that "Cane" being cancelled has turned out to be "sweet"...