Super Bowl terror

[365Duke]

this would have been really, really bad.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/07/superbowl.gunfire.ap/index.html

im glad he changed his mind, but this dude needs to be in serious trouble and evaluated big time.

[dbb03]

this would have been really, really bad.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/07/superbowl.gunfire.ap/index.html

im glad he changed his mind, but this dude needs to be in serious trouble and evaluated big time.


Will there be a terrorist attack at the stadium causing the postponement/cancellation of the game?

If yes, will it be perpetrated by Al Qaeda, an indigenous homegrown cell, or neither


no one bet the affirmative.

[Shammrog]

Yes - thankfully this loony toon changed his mind.

Fortunately, I doubt he would have gotten anywhere within shooting distance of the venue itself without getting sniped (yes, there are snipers, radiation detectors, etc. at the SB. A big time target, and heavily secured.) But who knows how many people he could have picked off along the way.

[cato]

Yes - thankfully this loony toon changed his mind.

Fortunately, I doubt he would have gotten anywhere within shooting distance of the venue itself without getting sniped (yes, there are snipers, radiation detectors, etc. at the SB. A big time target, and heavily secured.) But who knows how many people he could have picked off along the way.

I was discussing Super Bowl security measures with a client that owns property near the stadium in Glendale, and I was surprised by how heavy the security is.

[pigs2k1]

It's been mathematically proven that the amount of terror caused by a terrorist attack at the Super Bowl is equal to a constant known as the Sum of All Fears.

[mehmattski]

It's been mathematically proven that the amount of terror caused by a terrorist attack at the Super Bowl is equal to a constant known as the Sum of All Fears.

But is it a Clear and Present Danger? Could it result in Executive Orders, handed down Without Remorse, to direct the Hunt for Red October?

[OZZIE4DUKE]

But is it a Clear and Present Danger? Could it result in Executive Orders, handed down Without Remorse, to direct the Hunt for Red October?

I am so ready for another Jack Ryan Clancy Classic! The last two weren't nearly as good as the early works. In fact, the last one was unnaturally short, as though he broke his normal 700 page novel into two, and we're still waiting for the second half to come out. It has been what? 3 or 4 years now?

[billybreen]

I am so ready for another Jack Ryan Clancy Classic! The last two weren't nearly as good as the early works. In fact, the last one was unnaturally short, as though he broke his normal 700 page novel into two, and we're still waiting for the second half to come out. It has been what? 3 or 4 years now?

I think the last one I read was the one after Sum of All Fears. Given his continued advancement in rank from book to book, what is Jack Ryan now? Pope?

[OZZIE4DUKE]

I think the last one I read was the one after Sum of All Fears. Given his continued advancement in rank from book to book, what is Jack Ryan now? Pope?

He was President at the end of Debt of Honor (he was VP, and assumed the Presidency when the Pres was killed when an airliner was purposefully crashed into the Capitol during a State of the Union (?) speech (I forget exactly what it was), and for the full following book. He was retired in the last one and the "secret agent" of interest was his son. I had heard somewhere that the next book would be somewhere in the middle of the established time line, so it would be about/involve Jack Ryan.

[billybreen]

He was President at the end of Debt of Honor (he was VP, and assumed the Presidency when the Pres was killed when an airliner was purposefully crashed into the Capitol during a State of the Union (?) speech (I forget exactly what it was), and for the full following book. He was retired in the last one and the "secret agent" of interest was his son. I had heard somewhere that the next book would be somewhere in the middle of the established time line, so it would be about/involve Jack Ryan.

Ahh, Debt of Honor was the last I read. Hmm, actually, maybe it was Rainbox Six, but Ryan was only a bit player in that.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Ahh, Debt of Honor was the last I read. Hmm, actually, maybe it was Rainbox Six, but Ryan was only a bit player in that.

Rainbow Six didn't involve Ryan at all that I remember. It was all about the special forces team, and Clark, who became so important to Ryan as an operative, and why Clark was such a badass.

[billybreen]

Rainbow Six didn't involve Ryan at all that I remember. It was all about the special forces team, and Clark, who became so important to Ryan as an operative, and why Clark was such a badass.

Yeah, I think there were a few passing references to Ryan being somewhere off in the wings.

[snowdenscold]

Rainbow Six didn't involve Ryan at all that I remember. It was all about the special forces team, and Clark, who became so important to Ryan as an operative, and why Clark was such a badass.

Actually, Without Remorse is the whole book about Clark's background and is set in the 70's with a brief cameo appearance by Ryan. It's actually quite an interesting concept - what if a special forces trained ex-soldier with a huge vendetta took his time and very carefully started eliminating drug dealers and other crime figures. I guess sort of like Boondock Saints.


My personal favorite of all of them is probably The Sum of All Fears though - it's a very long and slow buildup for the first 500 pages, but then once the Superbowl hits - it's just an tense thrill ride the last 150 pages to the end tying in all the various plots that have been building up.

Also, I really like the intro quote at the beginning of the book


“The two contenders met, with all their troops, on the field of Camlan to negotiate. Both sides were fully armed, and desperately suspicious that the other side was going to try some ruse or stratagem. The negotiations were going along smoothly until one of the knights was stung by an asp, and drew his sword to kill the reptile. The others saw the sword being drawn and immediately fell upon each other. A tremendous slaughter ensued. The chronicle is quite specific about the point that the slaughter was excessive chiefly because the battle took place without preparations or premeditation.”

–Herman Kahn, On Thermonuclear War

[billybreen]

Actually, Without Remorse is the whole book about Clark's background and is set in the 70's with a brief cameo appearance by Ryan. It's actually quite an interesting concept - what if a special forces trained ex-soldier with a huge vendetta took his time and very carefully started eliminating drug dealers and other crime figures. I guess sort of like Boondock Saints.


My personal favorite of all of them is probably The Sum of All Fears though - it's a very long and slow buildup for the first 500 pages, but then once the Superbowl hits - it's just an tense thrill ride the last 150 pages to the end tying in all the various plots that have been building up.

Also, I really like the intro quote at the beginning of the book

Yeah, Without Remorse was good. Rainbox Six was all set in the present.

I read the last 400 pages of the Sum of All Fears in one sitting, in the back of a rental car with my parents driving across France (I was in 9th grade, I think). My dad was trying to mix a vacation with a business trip, but that often meant improbable and painful stretches of driving to adhere to his agenda. By the end of that drive (from Switzerland to La Rochelle), I told him that some day I was putting him in a crooked elderly home where they don't treat people well.

[snowdenscold]

I told him that some day I was putting him in a crooked elderly home where they don't treat people well.

"How about a nice warm glass of shut the h**l up!"