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EarlJam
11-15-2007, 01:28 PM
On the episode where Kirk faced off against Lord Garth, and Garth turned himself into an image of Kirk then tried to beam up to the Enterprise but couldn't because he didn't know the proper response to "Kings to Queens Level Four," well, why did Kirk and company initiate that little plan anyway?

I can't recall even one other occassion where Kirk or anyone else instructed members of the bridge to request a response to "Kings to Queens level Four" before beaming up to the ship.

But on this certain mission, for whatever reason, they just had the good fortune to decide to implement this little tactic. It worked, and I'm glad. Otherwise, Garth would have taken over the Enterprise, Kirk would have been stuck on the planet with the green chick (no wait, Garth blew her up) and all hell would have broken lose.

Anyone have any insight why that particular command was given for that particular mission?

-EarlJam

Shammrog
11-15-2007, 01:31 PM
On the episode where Kirk faced off against Lord Garth, and Garth turned himself into an image of Kirk then tried to beam up to the Enterprise but couldn't because he didn't know the proper response to "Kings to Queens Level Four," well, why did Kirk and company initiate that little plan anyway?

I can't recall even one other occassion where Kirk or anyone else instructed members of the bridge to request a response to "Kings to Queens level Four" before beaming up to the ship.

But on this certain mission, for whatever reason, they just had the good fortune to decide to implement this little tactic. It worked, and I'm glad. Otherwise, Garth would have taken over the Enterprise, Kirk would have been stuck on the planet with the green chick (no wait, Garth blew her up) and all hell would have broken lose.


Anyone have any insight why that particular command was given for that particular mission?

-EarlJam

I would think that Kirk must have known *beforehand* that Garth was going to pose as him, thus the command to ensure that only the genuine Kirk would be beamed aboard.

How did he know? Given his legendary Academy antics with the Kobayashi Maru scenario, methinks the Captain stole a copy of the script!

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 01:40 PM
I would think that Kirk must have known *beforehand* that Garth was going to pose as him, thus the command to ensure that only the genuine Kirk would be beamed aboard.

How did he know? Given his legendary Academy antics with the Kobayashi Maru scenario, methinks the Captain stole a copy of the script!

Thanks Shammrog. Quick follow-up: Was Kirk aware that Garth possessed this ability? I know they spent some time together at the academy, so perhaps Kirk new how the mind of Garth would work and hence, gave the command. I mean, Garth WAS brilliant, if misguided, not like the Gorn (who got his reptilian arse kicked by Kirk) who had to rely mostly on physical prowess.

But if memory serves, Kirk and his landing party thought Garth was "on the level" when they beamed down. In fact, Kirk was really talking Garth up just prior to beaming down. They were baskically making a pit-stop, right?

Something here just doesn't add up. Like you said, maybe Kirk just stole the script.

-EarlJam

Shammrog
11-15-2007, 01:57 PM
Thanks Shammrog. Quick follow-up: Was Kirk aware that Garth possessed this ability? I know they spent some time together at the academy, so perhaps Kirk new how the mind of Garth would work and hence, gave the command. I mean, Garth WAS brilliant, if misguided, not like the Gorn (who got his reptilian arse kicked by Kirk) who had to rely mostly on physical prowess.

But if memory serves, Kirk and his landing party thought Garth was "on the level" when they beamed down. In fact, Kirk was really talking Garth up just prior to beaming down. They were baskically making a pit-stop, right?

Something here just doesn't add up. Like you said, maybe Kirk just stole the script.

-EarlJam

I am sticking with the script-stealing theory. He hid it under his hairpiece.

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 02:01 PM
I am sticking with the script-stealing theory. He hid it under his hairpiece.

Kirk wouldn't steal. He had too much integrity for that. Are you being serious? And what's with the "hairpiece" comment? I get the feeling you are making fun of Captain Kirk. That's not cool man.

-EarlJam

Shammrog
11-15-2007, 02:04 PM
Kirk wouldn't steal. He had too much integrity for that. Are you being serious? And what's with the "hairpiece" comment? I get the feeling you are making fun of Captain Kirk. That's not cool man.

-EarlJam

Just kidding. I am an avowed TNG fan. But I love William Shatner. And, he supposedly - ahem - "dated" Heather Locklear.

knights68
11-15-2007, 02:16 PM
he supposedly - ahem - "dated" Heather Locklear.

You sure it was "dated" and not "baby sat"? :D
But then again, younger chicks usually dig older guys anyway, so it would stand to reason either way.

knights68
11-15-2007, 02:20 PM
On the episode where Kirk faced off against Lord Garth, and Garth turned himself into an image of Kirk then tried to beam up to the Enterprise but couldn't because he didn't know the proper response to "Kings to Queens Level Four," well, why did Kirk and company initiate that little plan anyway?
Anyone have any insight why that particular command was given for that particular mission?
-EarlJam

My only theory to this would be, in Kirk's infinite wisdom, he saw it coming.
Maybe he was more like Garth than Garth of him.
But I suggest all the same, he knew it was coming. How so?
Just the same way as there always seems to be a new crewman at the beginning of the show and you knew he or she was gonna die by the half hour mark!

So then with that my only question is, What IS the proper response to "Kings to Queens Level Four"??????

TNTDevil
11-15-2007, 02:21 PM
On the episode where Kirk faced off against Lord Garth, and Garth turned himself into an image of Kirk then tried to beam up to the Enterprise but couldn't because he didn't know the proper response to "Kings to Queens Level Four," well, why did Kirk and company initiate that little plan anyway?

I can't recall even one other occassion where Kirk or anyone else instructed members of the bridge to request a response to "Kings to Queens level Four" before beaming up to the ship.

But on this certain mission, for whatever reason, they just had the good fortune to decide to implement this little tactic. It worked, and I'm glad. Otherwise, Garth would have taken over the Enterprise, Kirk would have been stuck on the planet with the green chick (no wait, Garth blew her up) and all hell would have broken lose.

Anyone have any insight why that particular command was given for that particular mission?

-EarlJamIn this particular episode the Enterprise was visiting a Penal Colony (That's a prison EJ, not the other thing but, that green chick was smokin' hot!).

The planet that hosted the prison was completely uninhabitable and the prison itself was protected from the environment by some type of dome shield. Anyone who escaped onto the planet would die within moments (i.e. the green chick prior to Garth blowing her to bits). Thus the only practical escape would be by transporter to a spaceship. Therefore, the command was issued in the event of an escape attempt.

There were other episodes where Kirk issued just such an order but, right now, they titles escape me.

OZZIE4DUKE
11-15-2007, 02:39 PM
I would think that Kirk must have known *beforehand* that Garth was going to pose as him, thus the command to ensure that only the genuine Kirk would be beamed aboard.

How did he know? Given his legendary Academy antics with the Kobayashi Maru scenario, methinks the Captain stole a copy of the script!

I think it is more basic than he stole the script. I think he READ the script before they shot the scene.

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 02:44 PM
In this particular episode the Enterprise was visiting a Penal Colony (That's a prison EJ, not the other thing but, that green chick was smokin' hot!).

The planet that hosted the prison was completely uninhabitable and the prison itself was protected from the environment by some type of dome shield. Anyone who escaped onto the planet would die within moments (i.e. the green chick prior to Garth blowing her to bits). Thus the only practical escape would be by transporter to a spaceship. Therefore, the command was issued in the event of an escape attempt.

There were other episodes where Kirk issued just such an order but, right now, they titles escape me.

Awesome, thanks!

I loved the reaction of the Enterprise crew to the explosion that blew the green chick to pieces. You could see the explosion. It was no bigger than Nissan Maxima. Big enough to completely destroy the green chick, but not that big overall. The crew's reaction was one similar to, "Sweet Jesus in a chicken basket! Did you see the size of that explosion! It must of wiped out everything!"

Somewhat of an overreation in my opinion coming from a crew that had faced The Doomsday Machine, along with Commodore Decker, God rest his soul.

-EarlJam

TNTDevil
11-15-2007, 02:48 PM
Awesome, thanks!

I loved the reaction of the Enterprise crew to the explosion that blew the green chick to pieces. You could see the explosion. It was no bigger than Nissan Maxima. Big enough to completely destroy the green chick, but not that big overall. The crew's reaction was one similar to, "Sweet Jesus in a chicken basket! Did you see the size of that explosion! It must of wiped everything out!"

Somewhat of an overreation in my opinion coming from a crew that had faced The Doomsday Machine, along with Commodore Decker, God rest his soul.

-EarlJamYeah, the explosion was something. IIRC, the issue at hand was that someone had developed a new "super" explosive and ol' Garth baby, that crazy f*&k, decided to demonstrate it on his unfaithful, green hottie.

Wasn't it in/on her necklace or something?

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 02:51 PM
Yeah, the explosion was something. IIRC, the issue at hand was that someone had developed a new "super" explosive and ol' Garth baby, that crazy f*&k, decided to demonstrate it on his unfaithful, green hottie.

Wasn't it in/on her necklace or something?

Yeah. On her neck. And he made Kirk watch. Cruel, sick bastard.

I AM LORD GARTH!!!!

I think it was mighty big of Kirk to help Garth get back to "normal" after what he did.

-EarlJam

Shammrog
11-15-2007, 02:52 PM
I think it is more basic than he stole the script. I think he READ the script before they shot the scene.

Heather Locklear read it to him. In the sack.

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 02:53 PM
Here's a question: What was one of your all-time least favorite Star Trek (Kirk version) episodes?

For me, it was the one with the dudes that had the black and white faces. I know Rodenberry was making a statement on bigotry and racism, but still, that episode sucked.

-EarlJam

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 02:55 PM
Heather Locklear read it to him. In the sack.

Word play:

Heather Locklear, while on his sack, read it to him.

-EarlJam

rasputin
11-15-2007, 03:10 PM
the gangster episode.

TNTDevil
11-15-2007, 03:56 PM
...was called "The Conscience of the King".

It was the one with the traveling troupe of actors and Kirk suspected the leader of the troupe was the genocidal govenor of some planet from which Kirk had barely escaped.

It was (in best Bill Walton voice) h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e!

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 04:13 PM
Fans often list "The Trouble with Tribbles" as one of their favorite episodes.

I hated it. H-A-T-E-D it.

-EJ

TNTDevil
11-15-2007, 04:16 PM
Fans often list "The Trouble with Tribbles" as one of their favorite episodes.

I hated it. H-A-T-E-D it.

-EJVery stupid episode.

Cavlaw
11-15-2007, 04:27 PM
It did make for an amusing pseudo-inside joke (for slightly older gamers) in "Knights of the Old Republic", however.

alteran
11-15-2007, 05:13 PM
Here's a question: What was one of your all-time least favorite Star Trek (Kirk version) episodes?

For me, it was the one with the dudes that had the black and white faces. I know Rodenberry was making a statement on bigotry and racism, but still, that episode sucked.

-EarlJam

I'm losing my Chris-Duhon-301-post-title, but you had to mention Kirk.

Kirk! KIRK!!!!!!

My least favorite ST-TOS episode had to be the one with the Space Hippies in it. Yuck.

One of the hippies name I was, I kid you not, Tongo Rad. And how can one possibly top this dialog I just found on Google:

Spock: "One."
Adam: "We are one."
Spock: "One is the beginning."
Adam: "You one, Herbert?"
Spock: "I am not Herbert."
Adam (aside): "He's not Herbert – we reach."

Way to groovy for me.

alteran
11-15-2007, 05:16 PM
Fans often list "The Trouble with Tribbles" as one of their favorite episodes.

I hated it. H-A-T-E-D it.

-EJ

Are you kidding me? GREAT episode.

It even spawned one of the better DS9 episodes.

EarlJam
11-15-2007, 05:18 PM
I'm losing my Chris-Duhon-301-post-title, but you had to mention Kirk.

Kirk! KIRK!!!!!!

My least favorite ST-TOS episode had to be the one with the Space Hippies in it. Yuck.

One of the hippies name I was, I kid you not, Tongo Rad. And how can one possibly top this dialog I just found on Google:

Spock: "One."
Adam: "We are one."
Spock: "One is the beginning."
Adam: "You one, Herbert?"
Spock: "I am not Herbert."
Adam (aside): "He's not Herbert – we reach."

Way to groovy for me.

That's hilarious! I remember thinking they were going to kiss. That's the episode where Spock got to play his funked out musical instrument. I also remember very clearly the Hippies' theme song:

"Steppin' out to Eden.........yea brother!"

-James Tiberius EarlJam

Deslok
11-15-2007, 09:09 PM
That's hilarious! I remember thinking they were going to kiss. That's the episode where Spock got to play his funked out musical instrument. I also remember very clearly the Hippies' theme song:

"Steppin' out to Eden.........yea brother!"

-James Tiberius EarlJam

Ok, mentioning Spock and Hippies' songs is just wrong. It just immediately and irrevocably conjures up images of The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1189977381292772054), and thus, I'm scarred for the rest of the week.

But then, I never really liked TOS as much as any of the later treks.

Deslok

JBDuke
11-15-2007, 11:09 PM
Here's a question: What was one of your all-time least favorite Star Trek (Kirk version) episodes?

For me, it was the one with the dudes that had the black and white faces. I know Rodenberry was making a statement on bigotry and racism, but still, that episode sucked.

-EarlJam

As much as I love Star Trek, I have to admit that there are many episodes that really sucked. Some of my least favorites:

1. Who Mourns for Adonis?
2. Catspaw
3. Wolf in the Fold
4. The Gamesters of Triskelion
5. The Omega Glory
6. Break and Circuses
7. The Way to Eden
8. And the Children Shall Lead
9. Is There In Truth No Beauty?
10. Spectre of the Gun
11. Plato's Stepchildren
12. The Empath
13. The Mark of Gideon
14. The Cloud Minders
15. Turnabout Intruder

...but my all-time least favorite episode: "Spock's Brain"

"You are morg, we are eyemorg!"
"Brain, brain, what is brain?"

colchar
11-16-2007, 12:02 PM
Ok, mentioning Spock and Hippies' songs is just wrong. It just immediately and irrevocably conjures up images of The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1189977381292772054), and thus, I'm scarred for the rest of the week.

But then, I never really liked TOS as much as any of the later treks.

Deslok

I hate you, and I mean hate you, for posting that link. It was like a train wreck. I didn't want to watch but couldn't look away. I didn't think I could ever see anything worse than the videos from the Hof that were floating around here a little while ago. I was wrong. I was very very wrong.

colchar
11-16-2007, 12:06 PM
Very stupid episode.

Very stupid series.

EarlJam
11-16-2007, 12:09 PM
I hate you, and I mean hate you, for posting that link. It was like a train wreck. I didn't want to watch but couldn't look away. I didn't think I could ever see anything worse than the videos from the Hof that were floating around here a little while ago. I was wrong. I was very very wrong.

WTF!? I just watched the link. How stoned do you think he was during the shoot? That's just awful, highly illogical!

-EarlJam

Lavabe
11-16-2007, 12:12 PM
I hate you, and I mean hate you, for posting that link. It was like a train wreck. I didn't want to watch but couldn't look away. I didn't think I could ever see anything worse than the videos from the Hof that were floating around here a little while ago. I was wrong. I was very very wrong.

They're people! People!!

That was AWFUL, but not as bad as the Hof. Nimoy knew he wasn't a singer; the Hof, on the other hand, actually still thinks he's a singer.

Cheers,
Lavabe

EarlJam
11-16-2007, 12:19 PM
They're people! People!!

That was AWFUL, but not as bad as the Hof. Nimoy knew he wasn't a singer; the Hof, on the other hand, actually still thinks he's a singer.

Cheers,
Lavabe

Agreed. The "Awful" nod goes to the Hof video. I still have nightmares about that one.

Hey Lavabe, Wilson, up for a few Bee-Urz on Saturday or Sunday?

-EarlJam

JasonEvans
11-16-2007, 12:41 PM
I am with JB on Brain of Spock as being a truly horrid episode. I also hated the space hippies. Does that make me a Herbert?

Better question-- what is your favorite classic Trek episode. This is really hard!! No fair listing 4 or 5 faves, we are talking your #1 favorite episode. I really need to think about this one.

My early candidates are:


Amok Time- when Spock gets that 7-year-itch and ends up killing Kirk
Mirror, Mirror- the first time we go into the "alternate universe" where everyone good is evil
City on the Edge of Forever- where Kirk lets Joan Collins die so he can preserve history
The Menagerie- The 2-part episode made from the original pilot with Commander Christopher Pike.
The Enterprise Incident- Where it appears Kirk has gone crazy but is really a plot to steal a cloaking device from the Romulans.
Day of the Dove- Where an alien being forces people to fight and pits the Enterprise crew against a bunch of Klingons


--Jason "this is not gonna be easy!" Evan

EarlJam
11-16-2007, 12:52 PM
I am with JB on Brain of Spock as being a truly horrid episode. I also hated the space hippies. Does that make me a Herbert?

Better question-- what is your favorite classic Trek episode. This is really hard!! No fair listing 4 or 5 faves, we are talking your #1 favorite episode. I really need to think about this one.

My early candidates are:


Amok Time- when Spock gets that 7-year-itch and ends up killing Kirk
Mirror, Mirror- the first time we go into the "alternate universe" where everyone good is evil
City on the Edge of Forever- where Kirk lets Joan Collins die so he can preserve history
The Menagerie- The 2-part episode made from the original pilot with Commander Christopher Pike.
The Enterprise Incident- Where it appears Kirk has gone crazy but is really a plot to steal a cloaking device from the Romulans.
Day of the Dove- Where an alien being forces people to fight and pits the Enterprise crew against a bunch of Klingons


--Jason "this is not gonna be easy!" Evan

I believe Shatner listed "City on the Edge of Forever" as his favorite. Can't blame him. He got to kiss Joan Collins. She was freakin' beautiful.

That said, a few of my favorites are:

1. City on the Edge of Forever
2. Amok Time (how could you not enjoy Spock's antics?)
3. The Doomsday Machine (Commodore Decker!)
4. That episode with the Yangs and the Cons

-EarlJam

TNTDevil
11-16-2007, 01:13 PM
What was the name of the episode with all the good-looking androids? Was that "Spock's Brain".

Then there was the episode with Harry Mudd when he as, essentially, bringing hookers to the miners but, the hookers were really ugly unless they drank some potion?

What about the "Horta" episode? Who can forget Spock mind-melding with the Horta?

PAIN!

colchar
11-16-2007, 01:16 PM
They're people! People!!

That was AWFUL, but not as bad as the Hof. Nimoy knew he wasn't a singer; the Hof, on the other hand, actually still thinks he's a singer.

Cheers,
Lavabe

So do the Germans for some unexplained reason.

EarlJam
11-16-2007, 01:46 PM
So do the Germans for some unexplained reason.

Pfffffffffft! Germans.

They lost all credibilty with me the moment they attacked Pearl Harbor.

-EarlJam

JBDuke
11-16-2007, 03:14 PM
What was the name of the episode with all the good-looking androids? Was that "Spock's Brain".

Then there was the episode with Harry Mudd when he as, essentially, bringing hookers to the miners but, the hookers were really ugly unless they drank some potion?

What about the "Horta" episode? Who can forget Spock mind-melding with the Horta?

PAIN!

1. They weren't androids in "Spock's Brain". Perhaps you're thinking about the second Harry Mudd episode, "I, Mudd", wherein Harry had legions of attractive female-shaped robots that wouldn't let him leave.

2. The first Harry Mudd episode to which you refer is "Mudd's Women".

3. The Horta episode is "Devil in the Dark".

JBDuke
11-16-2007, 03:18 PM
I am with JB on Brain of Spock as being a truly horrid episode. I also hated the space hippies. Does that make me a Herbert?

Better question-- what is your favorite classic Trek episode. This is really hard!! No fair listing 4 or 5 faves, we are talking your #1 favorite episode. I really need to think about this one.

My early candidates are:


Amok Time- when Spock gets that 7-year-itch and ends up killing Kirk
Mirror, Mirror- the first time we go into the "alternate universe" where everyone good is evil
City on the Edge of Forever- where Kirk lets Joan Collins die so he can preserve history
The Menagerie- The 2-part episode made from the original pilot with Commander Christopher Pike.
The Enterprise Incident- Where it appears Kirk has gone crazy but is really a plot to steal a cloaking device from the Romulans.
Day of the Dove- Where an alien being forces people to fight and pits the Enterprise crew against a bunch of Klingons


--Jason "this is not gonna be easy!" Evan

I think there are only a dozen or so really good TOS episodes. For my money, "Balance of Terror" is the best. That's the one with the Enterprise duking it out with a Romulan ship in a Trek version of the classic sub movie "The Enemy Below".

OZZIE4DUKE
11-16-2007, 03:34 PM
I believe Shatner listed "City on the Edge of Forever" as his favorite. Can't blame him. He got to kiss Joan Collins. She was freakin' beautiful.

That said, a few of my favorites are:

1. City on the Edge of Forever
2. Amok Time (how could you not enjoy Spock's antics?)
3. The Doomsday Machine (Commodore Decker!)
4. That episode with the Yangs and the Cons

-EarlJam

I believe that was the Yangs and the Cooms, as in Yanks and Communists. I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America... A great episode and among my favorites, but perhaps one of the least shown in repeats. Mudd's Women, Trouble With Tribbles, City on the Edge of Forever, I could watch 'em over and over! I liked the one with Gary Seven, too.

Time travel always peaks my interest, in any of the Star Trek Series. My favorite NG episode is "Cause and Affect", which I nicknamed "Time Warp Loop", where the Enterprise collides with Frazier's ship as it emerges from a nebula and they go back in time until they can send themselves a message in the future and Data interprets the number 3 to mean take Riker's suggestion to blow the cargo bay doors to move the ships apart.

JasonEvans
11-16-2007, 03:35 PM
I think there are only a dozen or so really good TOS episodes.

Agreed-- I sometimes struggle to come up with why it created such a lasting craze. Frankly, it was really cheesy at times. I guess, at the time, we were really starved for anything sci-fi and even remotely realistic/intelligent.

Frankly, naming the best TNG episode would be virtually impossible. There dozens of episodes of that series that are far better than anything done in the original and since. TNG was the height of sci-fi on TV and it ain't even close, IMO.

--Jason "when they killed Tasha Yar in such a seemingly meaningless and random way, I was blown away... but when they sorta brought her back a few years later my jaw hit the floor" Evans

EarlJam
11-16-2007, 04:03 PM
Okay, I am fusing hit songs from the past with some Star Trek terminology. See if you can name the actual song and the artist:

1. I've got a photon torpedo, and baby it's ready to roar!
2. Plenty of room on the Starship Enterprise...
3. Reach down, between my legs, and pull the Captain's chair back...
4. We gonna Energize and have a good time! It's time to come together...
5. Can't you see me standing here I've got my back against the Doomsday Machine!...
6. If you like Dr. McCoy, and getting caught in the rain...
7. GORN to be wild!
8. Oh I'm, I'm, still at warp factor five!
9. I woke up this moring, my tricorder was gone....
10. Nothing last forever, even knowing how to save Spock's brain....

-EarlJam

Lavabe
11-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Okay, I am fusing hit songs from the past with some Star Trek terminology. See if you can name the actual song and the artist:

1. I've got a photon torpedo, and baby it's ready to roar!
2. Plenty of room on the Starship Enterprise...
3. Reach down, between my legs, and pull the Captain's chair back...
4. We gonna Energize and have a good time! It's time to come together...
5. Can't you see me standing here I've got my back against the Doomsday Machine!...
6. If you like Dr. McCoy, and getting caught in the rain...
7. GORN to be wild!
8. Oh I'm, I'm, still at warp factor five!
9. I woke up this moring, my tricorder was gone....
10. Nothing last forever, even knowing how to save Spock's brain....

-EarlJam
2. Hotel CA
4. Spock & the Gang: Celebrate
6. I do NOT like Pina Coladas.
7. WOW... a Steppenwolf reference!
9. A Boston reference!

Lavabe

Olympic Fan
11-16-2007, 05:22 PM
I agree with Jason ... TOS is very good at times (but with a lot of weak episodes), but TNG is the best science fiction ever done on TV.

My favorite TOS: City on the Edge of Forever (although Balance of Terror is a strong second place)

I do disagree with Jason about the impossibility of naming a favorite from TNG (although if I were picking a top 10 of all the Trek series 7 of 8 of them world be from TNG). I know most fans like "The Best of Two Worlds" (where Picard is kidnapped by the Borg), but I much prefer both "Yesterday's Enterprise" (which interestingly enough, incoporates the same moral dilemma that is at the heart of City on the Edge of Forever) and "Inner Light" -- an episode with rare human dimension.

Okay, linking the two, I'd suggest "Relics" -- with Scotty making a guest appearance and (shades of Larry Niven!) a Dyson Sphere.

For DS9: "Far Beyond the Stars" ... just a stunning homage to the '50s pulp era and why so many were inspired by science fiction in our dreams of a better world.

A couple of other observations --

-- If you're really interested in Star Trek music, you need to rent the documentary "Trekkies 2" which has segments on some great Trek-themed bands, especially some Klingon metal bands ... for some reason, there seem to be a bunch of these based in Sacremento.

-- Also as a Trek fan, I wonder if anybody else appreciated the Tim Allen movie Galaxy Quest (it was on cable last night). Clearly based on the Trek phenomenum, I can't help watching it and trying to imagine the Trek characters in the main roles -- especially Kirk as Commander Taggart and Nimoy in the Alan Rickman role.

EarlJam
11-16-2007, 05:52 PM
2. Hotel CA
4. Spock & the Gang: Celebrate
6. I do NOT like Pina Coladas.
7. WOW... a Steppenwolf reference!
9. A Boston reference!

Lavabe

Spock & the Gang!

That sounds like some horribly failed, wacky spin-off of Star Trek. Kind of like Joannie Loves Chachi (or however you spell it). :D

Good guesses. You are most correct on them. Know the others?

-EarlJam

EarlJam
11-16-2007, 05:53 PM
-- Also as a Trek fan, I wonder if anybody else appreciated the Tim Allen movie Galaxy Quest (it was on cable last night). Clearly based on the Trek phenomenum, I can't help watching it and trying to imagine the Trek characters in the main roles -- especially Kirk as Commander Taggart and Nimoy in the Alan Rickman role.

NEVER SAY DIE! NEVER SURRENDER!!

-EJ

cato
11-16-2007, 06:00 PM
I do disagree with Jason about the impossibility of naming a favorite from TNG (although if I were picking a top 10 of all the Trek series 7 of 8 of them world be from TNG). I know most fans like "The Best of Two Worlds" (where Picard is kidnapped by the Borg), but I much prefer both "Yesterday's Enterprise" (which interestingly enough, incoporates the same moral dilemma that is at the heart of City on the Edge of Forever) and "Inner Light" -- an episode with rare human dimension.

Okay, linking the two, I'd suggest "Relics" -- with Scotty making a guest appearance and (shades of Larry Niven!) a Dyson Sphere.



Darmok!

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
The Beast of Tanagra
Picard and Dathon at Eladril

OZZIE4DUKE
11-18-2007, 08:47 PM
City on the Edge of Tomorrow is on Monday morning at 6 a.m. on TVLand. Set your DVRs!