Heroes-10/22-spoilers

[bluebear]

Last night's episode was my favorite of the new season. I liked that they included little from the plotlines of Claire and Hiro (which IMO have been extremely weak). Matt's father seems like a great new villain, as does Kristen Bell's character.
Some good question were left open..
Who is Kristen Bell's father?
What is the significance of Peter's painting and his open ticket to Montreal?

[HaveFunExpectToWin]

Who is Kristen Bell's father?


Keith Mars.

[JasonEvans]

I watched Heroes in HD last night for the first time (jsut got a cool 56" HD set last week and got my HD cable hooked up on Friday) and I can confirm that the writing and plots suck just as badly in HD as they do in regular def TV.

Last night was a fairly decent episode-- at least we did not have to endure very much of the three worst story-lines in Heroes history:

The Guatemalan Wonder Twins - why am I supposed to care about these whiners anyway? Lets just have Sylar kill them and eat their brains already. I'd pay to see that!!!
Claire tries to be normal - hey, here is an exciting storyline-- lets make Claire as dull as possible and have her do NOTHING. As an added bonus we'll make her father 100% trust her despite mountains of evidence that she is sneaking around behind his back. I mean, what father does not 100% trust his teenaged daughter?
Hiro's Excellent Adventure - I wonder if they will bother to explain why time-travelling Hiro actually appears to be spending time in history as opposed to just coming back to the exact moment he left and telling Ando the story in person. I mean, writing it down to seal in a sword for 500 years so Ando can read about it?!?! Are you kidding me? Could the writers display any less imagination. If they do not kill-off Hiro (0% chance of that happening) then none of this makes any sense at all.

Kristyn Bell showed up and she can shoot lightning out of her hands. Ok, at least now we know how Peter got that ability. She is clearly bad to the bone because she just killed the bartender dude out of spite. She did not even try all that hard to get info from him, he stonewalled a tiny bit and she fried him. I am somewhat intrigued that Peter had a ticket to Montreal in his box of identity. I am certainly sensing that Peter's story is going somewhere and has been at least a little bit planned out, but there has been so little of interest going on with it that I am not sure I care. Get on with it already!!

The problem with this show is that the characters/actors are not nearly compelling enough on their own for me to enjoy seeing their story play-out in slow-motion. There needs to be a lot of action and drama happening to distract me from the I-could-care-less-about-any-of-them characters. This is, of course, the exact polar opposite of Lost.

I did like Parkman's father and his ability to put people into their own nightmares. That is kinda cool and if Matt develops that ability or develops other abilities it makes Matt more powerful, which would be neat.

By the way, is anyone else getting sick of EVERYONE on the show having a power? The muscle-memory girl is really silly. I love how she was watching a Bruce Lee movie. I am sure she will be able to perform perfect Karate in some future episode when, in reality, all she should be able to do is perrfectly mimic exact moves made by Bruce Lee in that film. So, unless she gets attacked in exactly the same way as Bruce gets attacked, she is useless. Somehow, I doubt they allow it to play out that way. Sigh.

Evans OUT!!

-Jason "I don't really know why I continue watching, but I do" Evans

[Exiled_Devil]

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Evans OUT!!


Is that in Honor of Ryan Seacrest or Jim Rome?


Exiled

[Jumbo]

I can't even explain how disappointed I am in this season. You pretty much nailed it all, Jason.

[TheGodfather]

Keith Mars.I see your reasoning. The actor playing Parkman's dad, aka the Nightmare Man, is the same one who played Grunberg's dad on Felicity. It would only follow that Keith Mars plays Bell's dad again too. ;)

I watched Heroes in HD last night for the first time (jsut got a cool 56" HD set last week and got my HD cable hooked up on Friday) and I can confirm that the writing and plots suck just as badly in HD as they do in regular def TV.
I would have loved to see Nathan vs Nathan set against a devastated NYC on 56" HD but it sounds like it was disappointing. Pushing Daises on a screen that big in HD should be awesome.


Claire tries to be normal - hey, here is an exciting storyline-- lets make Claire as dull as possible and have her do NOTHING. As an added bonus we'll make her father 100% trust her despite mountains of evidence that she is sneaking around behind his back. I mean, what father does not 100% trust his teenaged daughter?
I'm not sure if this "100% trust" thing was sarcasm I missed, or if maybe you missed an episode but I thought it was pretty clear two eps ago his level of trust was near zero? He openly questioned Claire about boys in one scene. Then still not trusting her he tried to follow her, but West helped her get away by flying her off. Then he confronted her again basically calling her a liar and saying she'd been with a boy. She admitted sneaking around behind his back but lied and said it was for cheerleading. Short of putting a tracking device in her not much else he can do to show distrust. And for a man starting a new job, trying to organize a takedown of the Company from the inside and most recently being shown a prophetic painting of his own dead body, he still puts worrying about Claire as his priority!

Hiro's Excellent Adventure - I wonder if they will bother to explain why time-travelling Hiro actually appears to be spending time in history as opposed to just coming back to the exact moment he left and telling Ando the story in person. I mean, writing it down to seal in a sword for 500 years so Ando can read about it?!?! Are you kidding me? Could the writers display any less imagination. If they do not kill-off Hiro (0% chance of that happening) then none of this makes any sense at all. They've covered this ground before. I suppose each and every time Hiro could explain he doesn't have a mastery of his ability to land in time exactly where he wants but at this point it is sort of a given on the viewer. Hiro has a strong connection with Ando I definitely buy into him wanting to communicate to his closest friend while he is stuck in the past. Even if he is eventually able to go back to the exact moment he left, in the meantime he is stuck there and without his closest friend who he is use to telling everything to.

Suggesting killing off Hiro! Heretic! De-powering or "curing" him is an unfortunate but acceptable fate but Hiro is the best character on the show. His death had better be prodigious.


The muscle-memory girl is really silly. I love how she was watching a Bruce Lee movie. I am sure she will be able to perform perfect Karate in some future episode when, in reality, all she should be able to do is perrfectly mimic exact moves made by Bruce Lee in that film. So, unless she gets attacked in exactly the same way as Bruce gets attacked, she is useless. Somehow, I doubt they allow it to play out that way. Sigh.Lol, criticizing a show for mistakes they haven't even made yet? So far she has only duplicated things she has seen and the moves she made after watching the movie scene were the exact same she had just viewed. When she took out the robber she didn't use wrestling moves she hadn't seen before in the same situation you are describing. Don't you think that's her in Isaac's comic just like Hiro's story was foretold?
Also, not that it matters to your point (only to Bruce Lee fans) but that wasn't Bruce Lee it was Jason Scott Lee playing Bruce Lee in Dragon.

[HaveFunExpectToWin]

I see your reasoning. The actor playing Parkman's dad, aka the Nightmare Man, is the same one who played Grunberg's dad on Felicity. It would only follow that Keith Mars plays Bell's dad again too. ;)

Also, Kristen Bell's smarmy character is a clone of Veronica Mars minus the lightning-hands and Irishman-killing.

[JasonEvans]

Also, not that it matters to your point (only to Bruce Lee fans) but that wasn't Bruce Lee it was Jason Scott Lee playing Bruce Lee in Dragon.

I love Dragon!!! Great movie, very underappreciated. Ending was a little strange.

--Jason