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Oriole Way
03-30-2009, 08:32 AM
Is Seth a natural 2? Can he play like the 1 like his brother, or is he so much more effective as a 2?
From the limited times I have seen him play, he looks like a natural 2 with solid passing skills.
I am excited about this transfer. At first, when I realized Curry was interested in Duke, I was worried he might take some shots way from Andre Dawkins, who I feel could become one of the great all-time shooters (and players) at Duke. But if K thinks Curry and Dawkins can co-exist, obviously I'm looking forward to it.
bgibbs1001
03-30-2009, 08:53 AM
This is great news, and certainly takes MY mind out of the doldrums of a NCAAT loss. (BTW, doesn't that Nova win over Pitt help validate us a little?? Now just gotta see them win the next one...)
Welcome to Duke Seth! You're going to love it here - a really special place. :-)
I was wondering if any of our recruiting gurus here could comment on how highly recruited Seth was coming out of HS in the 08 class? (If really highly rated, how'd he end up at Liberty? There's many possible reasons.) No doubt his offense fills a need we've been anticipating in 2010-2011. Great timing.
-BDBD :D
Seth was not in the top 150 of HS recruits according to Scout's last ranking for 2008.
Duvall
03-30-2009, 09:11 AM
Seth was not in the top 150 of HS recruits according to Scout's last ranking for 2008.
Yes, and he was in the top 1 of scoring for that class according to actual college basketball. Expectations should probably be set somewhere in between.
blazindw
03-30-2009, 09:37 AM
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we win the National Championship the last time we had a transfer student sitting out.
Yes, Dahntay was sitting out his transfer year in '01. I remember Coach K giving him credit for pushing the players hard in practice that year and giving them the edge they needed to win it all. He said something to the effect of "Our most athletic player on the team isn't eligible this year due to transfer rules, so our practices are his games"
miramar
03-30-2009, 10:32 AM
Seth was not in the top 150 of HS recruits according to Scout's last ranking for 2008.
Rivals.com didn't have either one of the brothers in the top 150 (2006 & 2008), which goes to show you how unreliable the rankings are.
roywhite
03-30-2009, 10:34 AM
Rivals.com didn't have either one of the brothers in the top 150 (2006 & 2008), which goes to show you how unreliable the rankings are.
...and the basic uncertainty of trying to gauge how a 17-yr old will perform at age 20 or 21.
What was the high school situation for Seth and Steph? Have they grown or improved since they were sophomores or juniors in high school (when scouts evaluate)? I can't imagine the sons of an NBA star flying below radar. Did the school have a decent basketball team? Did they play AAU ball?
I am not looking a gift horse in the mouth. I think Seth will be a great addition to the team, kicking up the practices next year, bringing instant offense off the bench the year after and then being one of the go-to guys in his jr and sr years.
I am wondering how TWO kids from the same school could be so incredibly undervalued by scouts.
RainingThrees
03-30-2009, 12:06 PM
What was the high school situation for Seth and Steph? Have they grown or improved since they were sophomores or juniors in high school (when scouts evaluate)? I can't imagine the sons of an NBA star flying below radar. Did the school have a decent basketball team? Did they play AAU ball?
I am not looking a gift horse in the mouth. I think Seth will be a great addition to the team, kicking up the practices next year, bringing instant offense off the bench the year after and then being one of the go-to guys in his jr and sr years.
I am wondering how TWO kids from the same school could be so incredibly undervalued by scouts.
Especially after Stephen explodes as soon as he reached college. Virginia Tech fans have to be pissed.
...and the basic uncertainty of trying to gauge how a 17-yr old will perform at age 20 or 21.
Exactly. A lot of things go into the equation, not just talent and level of competition. Many kids are still growing/developing from 17-20. For example, consider the Blue Devils recruiting of Casey Jacobson and Mike Dunleavy. The two were considered a toss-up out of high school as a pair of talented 6'5" shooting guards. Then, Dunleavy proceed to grow another 3-4 inches and turned himself into a top-5 draft pick as a result. Obviously, Jacobson was no slouch, but you can't predict a guy growing another 3-4 inches to go from your average-sized wing to an NBA-sized wing forward with guard-like skills.
Bostondevil
03-30-2009, 12:17 PM
OK, so last year during Davidson's run at the Tourney, I seem to remember some discussion of Stephen's younger brother and how he chose his school. This might have been Vitale type banter during a game, but I swear I heard this story somewhere. Seth looked up to his older brother and saw how much Stephen enjoyed playing at a smaller school. He decided early on to look small himself with the following criteria, he didn't want to go to Davidson, he didn't want to go to a school that was likely to play against Davidson, he did want to stay in the area. Anybody else remember this discussion? I think he chose too small and that's to our great benefit, plus there's no way the brothers can play against each other now.
Welcome Seth. You made my oldest son very happy last night. He can't wait to see you play and he hopes you're still at Duke when he comes in the fall of 2012. (We'll see about that, but Duke is on his list.)
Regenman
03-30-2009, 01:54 PM
And for the folks who think that this somehow marks a turning point in Krzyzewski's ability to recruit, exactly where were you when he signed or received committments from Mason Plumlee, Ryan Kelly, Andre Dawkins, Josh Hairston, and Tyler Thornton?
I don't think anyone disputes Coach K's ability to recruit wing type players or guards (how many McD AA's do we have on the team??). I think the concern has been recruiting big men and this transfer decision still has no impact on that particular concern.
Good news but it's not a magical elixir for (what I perceive to be) Duke's biggest weakness.
RainingThrees
03-30-2009, 02:07 PM
ESPN talks with Seth Curry. Short general questions.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4026759
arnie is still king
03-30-2009, 02:42 PM
...and the basic uncertainty of trying to gauge how a 17-yr old will perform at age 20 or 21.
Yea, Rivals has him as the 35th (and last) rated point guard for 2008. I'm still not sure how much impact he'll have, but am excited to see him in 2010.
SupaDave
03-30-2009, 03:14 PM
I don't think anyone disputes Coach K's ability to recruit wing type players or guards (how many McD AA's do we have on the team??). I think the concern has been recruiting big men and this transfer decision still has no impact on that particular concern.
Good news but it's not a magical elixir for (what I perceive to be) Duke's biggest weakness.
Does THIS even make sense to YOU. Boozer, Williams, Brand... We missed on some favorites in some years where the picking was slim.
pratt '04
03-30-2009, 03:16 PM
ESPN talks with Seth Curry. Short general questions.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4026759
Lucky for Seth, Jon will be graduating just in time for him to take the "family number."
westwall
03-30-2009, 03:32 PM
Largely overlooked in previous posts is Seth's ability at the free throw line. According to his freshman stats posted earlier in this thread, in all games played after January 1, Seth hit 90% (90/100), which puts him in the Redick-Scheyer class. Not too shabby!
Ima Facultiwyfe
03-30-2009, 03:41 PM
Lucky for Seth, Jon will be graduating just in time for him to take the "family number."
Unless there comes a reason to retire it! Wouldn't THAT be nice?:D
Love, Ima
I_am_a_Blue_Devil
03-30-2009, 03:49 PM
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2009/0227/The_Mag_Seth_Curry.jpg&imgrefurl=http://search.espn.go.com/dell-curry/&usg=__SK8nK6pUk3VzByZB_4NlRuqBA6c=&h=720&w=1280&sz=389&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=lJbnvOJvYb7x-M:&tbnh=84&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dseth%2Bcurry%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4DKU S_enUS283US284%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
One of the stories is a link to a nice vid of ESPN the Mag interviewing Seth
Lord Ash
03-30-2009, 04:22 PM
Okay, a totally silly surface thing, but I find Seth to be, on first appearance, a charming young man with a real contageous smile. Am I the only one to notice this?
weezie
03-30-2009, 04:58 PM
Okay, a totally silly surface thing, but I find Seth to be, on first appearance, a charming young man with a real contageous smile. Am I the only one to notice this?
Agreed. And he's going to look great in the royal blue and white.
jdj4duke
03-30-2009, 05:23 PM
Based on the picture on DBR home page, he already has mastered the ability to carry the ball while dribbling. That's a plus-
detule
03-30-2009, 05:24 PM
Because he decided flat out/no second thoughts/"best school - best coach"/ that he wants to play here.
It seems to me, recruitment is such a robust process nowadays, with players so focused on finding the school that offers best fit for them in the sense of playing time and role on the team, that they often pass up institutions that are better academically (Duke), and where coaches prepare you for life rather than just the next game (K).
I am certainly no expert, but what his actions say to me is that either he values these qualities more than your average recruit, or that he is so confident in his ability that he does not feel the need to shop around for playing time and exposure - even when joining a talented team like Duke.
Either way - i like it.
Regenman
03-30-2009, 06:08 PM
Does THIS even make sense to YOU. Boozer, Williams, Brand... We missed on some favorites in some years where the picking was slim.
Excuse me, but what's up with the "moderator's" tone here? Why are you bringing up guys recruited over 7 years ago to try to prove a point? I didn't know that our biggest weakness now was the same as 2003. Or is Duke that good that we don't have a "biggest" weakness? My whole point was that what I quoted was a strawman argument about Coach K's recruiting. No one (that I know of) is complaining about the number of McD AAs that Coach K brings in.
So, "excuse me" but some of us that have been around for 20 plus years are wondering why we didn't have better "back up" plans for when our favorites (Monroe and Patterson) decide not to come.
And does THIS make sense to YOU (Domzalski, Beard, Newton, Burgess, Thompson, Boateng), I can throw out names as well.
RainingThrees
03-30-2009, 06:19 PM
Excuse me, but what's up with the "moderator's" tone here? Why are you bringing up guys recruited over 7 years ago to try to prove a point? I didn't know that our biggest weakness now was the same as 2003. Or is Duke that good that we don't have a "biggest" weakness? My whole point was that what I quoted was a strawman argument about Coach K's recruiting. No one (that I know of) is complaining about the number of McD AAs that Coach K brings in.
So, "excuse me" but some of us that have been around for 20 plus years are wondering why we didn't have better "back up" plans for when our favorites (Monroe and Patterson) decide not to come.
And does THIS make sense to YOU (Domzalski, Beard, Newton, Burgess, Thompson, Boateng), I can throw out names as well.
Like Christian Laettner, Danny Ferry and Cherokee Parks. Yes we have missed recruits but have also had many good ones.
Bostondevil
03-30-2009, 06:21 PM
Hey! Take the big man complaints to another thread. This here is all about our love for Seth.
Or just say 1f and 6i and leave it at that.
flyingdutchdevil
03-30-2009, 06:32 PM
There's some great stuff on youtube on Curry. Three things I noticed - the beautiful shot, the lack of hesitation to shoot (we definitely need that) and the sick passing. This is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3CXon8Ve0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xcMfdRsBc
Secondly, does anyone else think Stephen and Seth look nothing alike? Just thinking aloud
Lastly, anyone seem pictures of Sonya Curry? Wow. Cameras are going to love her at Cameron in a couple of years......
roywhite
03-30-2009, 06:43 PM
There's some great stuff on youtube on Curry. Three things I noticed - the beautiful shot, the lack of hesitation to shoot (we definitely need that) and the sick passing. This is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3CXon8Ve0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xcMfdRsBc
Secondly, does anyone else think Stephen and Seth look nothing alike? Just thinking aloud
Lastly, anyone seem pictures of Sonya Curry? Wow. Cameras are going to love her at Cameron in a couple of years......
Thanks for the video. Very impressive; looks like his offensive game is excellent already. A year of strength training, working on defense, playing against good competition in practice, and learning our system....we really could have something here!
I look forward to K calling him a "special player"; that's the signature.
Some nice shooting range on that video. I did see a behind-the-back pass, though. I wonder if Coach K saw that and still wants him. Did EW ever throw another one after his fast break one went wildly out of bounds early in the season?
RainingThrees
03-30-2009, 06:50 PM
There's some great stuff on youtube on Curry. Three things I noticed - the beautiful shot, the lack of hesitation to shoot (we definitely need that) and the sick passing. This is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3CXon8Ve0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xcMfdRsBc
Secondly, does anyone else think Stephen and Seth look nothing alike? Just thinking aloud
Lastly, anyone seem pictures of Sonya Curry? Wow. Cameras are going to love her at Cameron in a couple of years......
Seth looks like Dell.
wilson
03-30-2009, 09:06 PM
Agreed. And he's going to look great in the royal blue and white.
...and black.:(:confused::mad:
Redick#1Fan22
03-30-2009, 10:41 PM
Seth Curry led all freshmen in scoring... and his shot selection is 100x better than Stephens' is.
AIRFORCEDUKIE
03-31-2009, 02:13 AM
I read some speculation on this thread that he might be a little cocky and have a bit of an ego on him. A sense of entitlement or something like that. If you ask me, that is what I would like most about him. I want guys that have a sense of entitlement. I want them to think that they are supposed to win that national title and then go and win it. Seems like some of our best players have had that same attitude.
Welcome to Duke, bring the cockiness and attitude please.
Airforcedukie
CameronCrazy'11
03-31-2009, 03:42 AM
People said Stephen was cocky too, but I just didn't see that. Besides, what one person calls cockiness, another calls confidence. I'm sure Seth is a class act all the way.
UrinalCake
03-31-2009, 11:05 AM
After we played Davidson this year there was a whole thread on DBR that discussed Stephen Curry's use of his MOUTHPIECE and what that meant with regards to his personality. I think we're getting a little carried away here...
Indoor66
03-31-2009, 03:05 PM
After we played Davidson this year there was a whole thread on DBR that discussed Stephen Curry's use of his MOUTHPIECE and what that meant with regards to his personality. I think we're getting a little carried away here...
Yea. If you have a mouthpiece phobia, watch Udonis Haslam of the Miami Heat. He must chew through about 5 or so per season!
Dukebasketball32
03-31-2009, 11:09 PM
i think this kid is going to be a star for us. A year of practice next year with williams smith and sheyer (possibly wall or bledsoe) will do him alot of good. 3 years of eligability with us will be great coupled with thorton and dawkins
Kewlswim
04-01-2009, 12:14 AM
i think this kid is going to be a star for us. A year of practice next year with williams smith and sheyer (possibly wall or bledsoe) will do him alot of good. 3 years of eligability with us will be great coupled with thorton and dawkins
Hi,
Why do we think he will stay 3 years (or four if you include the transfer redshirt)? Is Seth one of those guys who is really good, but probably has little or no chance at a professional career?
GO DUKE!
Kewlswim
04-01-2009, 12:35 AM
Hi,
Why do we think he will stay 3 years (or four if you include the transfer redshirt)? Is Seth one of those guys who is really good, but probably has little or no chance at a professional career?
GO DUKE!
Hi,
Sorry, people are just writing he has 3 years of eligibility--nothing about how long he will stay.
GO DUKE!
DukieInBrasil
04-02-2009, 11:04 AM
K has said in the past that they only take transfers that they also recruited out of high school. Does anyone know if we recruited Seth out of HS and if so how intensely?
Bluedog
04-02-2009, 11:45 AM
K has said in the past that they only take transfers that they also recruited out of high school. Does anyone know if we recruited Seth out of HS and if so how intensely?
I'm fairly certain we didn't recruit him out of high school. He wasn't very highly touted and has made a HUGE leap his freshman year - wasn't offered at any ACC schools except Va tech who wanted him to redshirt to make way for other guards. He wasn't interested in that. Can you provide a link with a quote? I'd imagine Coach K perhaps was saying he'd consider high school academics/maturity level when taking in transfers from other universities. If they weren't Duke material from an academic/personality/team-oriented way in high school, they aren't Duke material as transfers. At least, that's my guess. Clearly, Seth's basketball skills have improved considerably since high school (or they were badly miscalculated in high school).
jimsumner
04-02-2009, 12:29 PM
"K has said in the past that they only take transfers that they also recruited out of high school. Does anyone know if we recruited Seth out of HS and if so how intensely?"
I've never heard this and I'm reasonably certain Duke did not recruit Roshown McLeod or Dahntay Jones when they were in high school.
I think the issue with Seth's high school recruitment was the same that Steph had to deal with, and that is they don't necessarily pass the "eye test." They are both relatively slight build-wise, and if the NFL Combine has taught us anything, it is that the tale of the tape is too often over-emphasized. After having watched Steph for a few years, if you don't think he could play in the ACC, you are crazy, and I think the same is going to apply to Seth. They are good shooters, but even better scorers, and they have that mentality that you just can't teach. They have the innate ability to find a way to put the ball in the basket. I have read where doctors indicated to Steph that he may have some growing yet to do, and maybe Seth does as well as the two of them have seemingly been the same size at the same age. I really look forward to seeing him don the royal blue and make the Cameron nets sing. He is a great addition.
I've never heard this and I'm reasonably certain Duke did not recruit Roshown McLeod or Dahntay Jones when they were in high school.
I recall that we did recruit Roshown, but I believe we offered someone else the scholarship.
Duvall
04-02-2009, 12:41 PM
I recall that we did recruit Roshown, but I believe we offered someone else the scholarship.
Joey Beard, maybe?
I move this from the Andre Dawkins thread.
my buddy's brother plays(ed) with curry at liberty. says the kid is a black hole, and doesnt play defense. let's just hope that K can change that.
Liberty played poor team defense. As for being a "black hole," Liberty had three players that averaged more than 6 points a game, and only only two of those players (Curry and Smith) could create their own shot. It has to ruffle some feathers when a freshman becomes the focal point of the offense, but Curry was so much more talented than everybody but Smith, that it's not hard to see why they needed him to take a large percentage of the team's shots.
Also, I don't think anyone's commented on this yet, but Liberty's coach, Ritchie McKay stepped down as Liberty's head coach to accept a position at UVa as one of Tony Bennett's assistants. It's a remarkable thing for the head coach of a Division 1 basketball program to step down to become an assistant. It's also an interesting postscript to Curry's transfer since there are many ways Curry's and McKay's decisions could have influenced each other.
Kewlswim
04-11-2009, 04:10 AM
Hi,
It is my understanding that a transfer has to sit out a "year" before being able to play. Could a transfer student matriculate in summer school, enroll in the Fall Semester and then be able to play in January (when the Spring Semester starts)? Is this what Seth is going to do, if he can do that, or is he waiting to start play in the Fall Semester of 2010?
GO DUKE!
FireOgilvie
04-11-2009, 04:15 AM
Transfers have to sit out an entire season. He will be eligible for the 2010-2011 season. We won't see him play for awhile.
BlueinBlo
04-11-2009, 09:41 AM
Why didn't he file for hardship. He is moving closer to home, could have said he was homesick and depressed.
Why didn't he file for hardship. He is moving closer to home, could have said he was homesick and depressed.
Well, his mom is terminally hot and his dad is pretty sick from three point range :D
BlueinBlo
04-11-2009, 10:47 AM
Well, his mom is terminally hot and his dad is pretty sick from three point range :D
Those are some terrible illnesses.
Notthatguy
04-11-2009, 11:38 AM
Well, his mom is terminally hot and his dad is pretty sick from three point range :D
For the win.
geraldsneighbor
04-12-2009, 09:24 PM
Liberty had a coaching change April 1st. I know it is after we got Seth, but is there anyway he could get a hard ship waiver now?
FireOgilvie
04-12-2009, 09:41 PM
Liberty had a coaching change April 1st. I know it is after we got Seth, but is there anyway he could get a hard ship waiver now?
No shot.
geraldsneighbor
04-12-2009, 10:21 PM
No shot.
Ah figured I would ask.
Duke #33
04-18-2009, 01:38 AM
Does Curry use one of the scholarships next year even though he can't play?
roywhite
04-18-2009, 07:56 AM
Does Curry use one of the scholarships next year even though he can't play?
Yes; he will be on scholarship and count toward the total scholarship allotment.
BlueinBlo
04-18-2009, 11:00 AM
Yes; he will be on scholarship and count toward the total scholarship allotment.
Even next year, he is not even playing.
JStuart
04-18-2009, 11:02 AM
'he is not evening playing.'
Does that mean he can play in the afternoon games?
WojoSay?
04-18-2009, 12:08 PM
Dropping in to say that I am glad Seth is on board.
It makes me wonder if the Crazies played some part in this decision seeing that Dale and his wife had such a good time in Cameron earlier in the year.
I refuse to post anything in the 60 page thread.
DDB4208
05-27-2009, 08:02 PM
Seth is trying out for the USA Men's U19 World Championships Team (http://www.usabasketball.com/news.php?news_page=09_mu19_trials_roster). I really hope he makes it because he won't be playing in any games next season.
Seth is trying out for the USA Men's U19 World Championships Team (http://www.usabasketball.com/news.php?news_page=09_mu19_trials_roster). I really hope he makes it because he won't be playing in any games next season.
I wonder if Coach K's service with USA basketball will be a factor in the selection, it would help Duke out as a team. It also can't hurt that Seth won't have any academic conflicts, as he will have a full year to work on his classes and won't need any summer classes. Hopefully his shooting will win him a spot, even if it isn't a starting spot.
jimsumner
05-28-2009, 11:56 AM
"Hopefully his shooting will win him a spot, even if it isn't a starting spot. "
Don't think of Curry as just a shooter. With a year to practice and refine his game, I would be very, very surprised if he doesn't take over Jon Scheyer's starting spot.
Chard
05-28-2009, 12:03 PM
Don't think of Curry as just a shooter. With a year to practice and refine his game, I would be very, very surprised if he doesn't take over Jon Scheyer's starting spot.
Unless there is a medical red shirt for Jon this coming season I don't think that will happen.
Wander
05-28-2009, 12:04 PM
Don't think of Curry as just a shooter. With a year to practice and refine his game, I would be very, very surprised if he doesn't take over Jon Scheyer's starting spot.
I've always thought of Curry (Steph, of course) as a rich man's version of Scheyer.
MulletMan
05-28-2009, 12:17 PM
Unless there is a medical red shirt for Jon this coming season I don't think that will happen.
Yeah... ummm, Jim was saying that Curry will take over Jon's spot in 2010. You know, when Scheyer has graduated and Curry is eligible.
roywhite
06-18-2009, 04:32 PM
http://www.usabasketball.com/news.php?news_page=09_mu19_team
Seth Curry made the Under-19 USA team. Congrats to him, and look forward to following the team in their tournament play.
I believe former Duke target Kenny Boynton was one who did not make the team.
taiw93
06-18-2009, 04:35 PM
Congrats to Seth Curry, who just made the US U-19 team. Looking through the roster, Seth seems to be, at least judging by reputation, one of the most talented players, so hopefully he'll get a lot of minutes and will hopefully get in some work at PG.
Note: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Kenny Boynton tried out for this team, and I do not see him on the roster. Looks like Duke ended up with the better player after all ;)
Edit: It appears that roywhite beat me to the punch. Mods, feel free to reorganize accordingly.
http://www.usabasketball.com/news.php?news_page=09_mu19_team
Seth Curry made the Under-19 USA team. Congrats to him, and look forward to following the team in their tournament play.
I believe former Duke target Kenny Boynton was one who did not make the team.
Good for Seth. Hopefully the experience will help him making an impact in practice this coming year, and will help him be a key piece of the 2010-2011 team.
revmel53
06-19-2009, 01:44 PM
Yep, I must say that I smiled when: Patrick Patterson was stuck for two years with a messed up Kentucky team, Greg Monroe was stuck with an under-achieving Georgetown team, and now that Kenny Boynton didn't make the under 19 USA team. I'd rather not have smiled, but that would have meant each would have made a different decision.
SilkyJ
06-19-2009, 05:03 PM
Yep, I must say that I smiled when: Patrick Patterson was stuck for two years with a messed up Kentucky team, Greg Monroe was stuck with an under-achieving Georgetown team, and now that Kenny Boynton didn't make the under 19 USA team. I'd rather not have smiled, but that would have meant each would have made a different decision.
I personally think its pretty sad to take enjoyment in the misery of others, especially when we're talking about teenagers who simply chose to attend other Universities and not the one you root for. What terrible kids!
There is one exception: anytime Carolina loses.
Lord Ash
06-19-2009, 05:25 PM
Are we only going to have a single Seth Curry catch-all thread?
roywhite
06-19-2009, 08:55 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/seth_davis/06/19/colorado/1.html
Seth on Seth
Some nice comments from Seth Davis about Seth Curry at the U-19 trials.
With this, and other reports, sounds like we have got ourselves a player!
revmel53
06-20-2009, 08:27 AM
Oh, and I smile when someone else tries to moralize on these threads... Ha!
AtlDuke72
06-20-2009, 05:47 PM
http://www.usabasketball.com/news.php?news_page=09_mu19_team
Seth Curry made the Under-19 USA team. Congrats to him, and look forward to following the team in their tournament play.
I believe former Duke target Kenny Boynton was one who did not make the team.
Although Seth had a great year at Liberty I really had no sense of how good a player he may be. We have known for years how highly touted Boynton is and I exect that he will be an outstanding college player and maybe a good pro also. The fact that Seth was chosen ahead of KB bodes very well for the future!
Greg_Newton
06-20-2009, 08:24 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/seth_davis/06/19/colorado/1.html
It took Curry about a session and a half to find his shooting stroke, but even when his shots weren't falling he excelled in other facets of the game -- including his ability to stop dribble penetration. He also demonstrated the virtuoso's savvy that defined his older brother Stephen's spectacular career at Davidson... Curry ended the fourth session as the leading scorer of the entire trials at 12.3 ppg, and he made 11 for 22 from three-point range... Seth is able to work out with the Bobcats' players and coaching staff, on top of the three days a week he hits the weights to add muscle to his sinewy frame.
On the flip side, North Carolina forward Deon Thompson had a rough week, making just 11 for 41 from the field. I've long thought Thompson had a real chance to be a first-tier college player, but I'm starting to wonder if he's going to be able to grow out of being a complementary guy.
Awesome news on all fronts.
roywhite
06-29-2009, 04:33 PM
http://twitter.com/usabasketball
Another exhibition win for USA U-19 team.
Looks like Seth was again the leading scorer.
FireOgilvie
06-29-2009, 04:55 PM
http://www.usabasketball.com/news.php?news_page=mu19_curryfeature
Seth is really young (for his grade/year). He turns 19 in August.
Wander
06-29-2009, 05:06 PM
Sounds more or less like we get another three years of Scheyer, and that's exactly what we'll need.
Azdukefan
06-29-2009, 06:29 PM
How could we possibly miss on this guy the first time? It sounds like he will contribute from day one. I guess better late than never! The Scheyer comparison sounds right on. While Scheyer is an underrated defender (by which I mean he is good at keeping his guy in front of him but not neccesarily forcing action), anyone have any idea what Seth will give us on the defensive end?
roywhite
06-29-2009, 06:47 PM
How could we possibly miss on this guy the first time? It sounds like he will contribute from day one. I guess better late than never! The Scheyer comparison sounds right on. While Scheyer is an underrated defender (by which I mean he is good at keeping his guy in front of him but not neccesarily forcing action), anyone have any idea what Seth will give us on the defensive end?
Late developer. You would think programs might have gotten a message when brother Stephen exploded on the national scene.
This is an illustration of a downside of the recruiting process getting earlier and earlier---meaning high school sophomores and rising juniors getting offers and making commitments to college.
Late bloomers may be under-valued, or just plain missed.
CameronBornAndBred
07-03-2009, 10:46 AM
Since the Blue-White game is really a public practice, will Seth be playing in it?
MChambers
07-03-2009, 03:19 PM
Since the Blue-White game is really a public practice, will Seth be playing in it?
Didn't Dahntay play in the game in 2000?
Kedsy
07-03-2009, 11:24 PM
Didn't Dahntay play in the game in 2000?
That's my recollection as well.
We've had so few transfers into the program during the K era (besides Seth Curry, it's just Dahntay Jones and Roshown McLeod, right?), that it's hard to know what rules apply to them.
jimsumner
07-03-2009, 11:33 PM
The b/w game is considered a practice. Therefore, Curry can play.
However, he cannot play in the pre-season games against other schools.
CameronBornAndBred
07-04-2009, 12:07 AM
The b/w game is considered a practice. Therefore, Curry can play.
However, he cannot play in the pre-season games against other schools.
Thanks Jim, I was pretty sure about the exhibitions, but wasn't sure on the BW game. Seth will add to that game being a hot ticket.
Interesting tweet:
I went to Duke practice today and will have a recap in tomorrow's blog - but the most impressive guy was someone named Curry
http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox
The new players next year will be an impressive group
RainingThrees
11-09-2009, 08:47 PM
I know this season hasn't even started yet (and don't get me wrong I am looking foward to it), but am I the only one that cannot wait till next year? That backcourt will be small but lethal.
ChicagoCrazy84
11-09-2009, 09:07 PM
Why will we be small? Both Curry and Dawkins are 6'4 I believe and Nolan is 6'2. It's not every day you get a 6'5 PG like Jon Scheyer.
Edouble
11-09-2009, 09:11 PM
Why will we be small? Both Curry and Dawkins are 6'4 I believe and Nolan is 6'2. It's not every day you get a 6'5 PG like Jon Scheyer.
I would project KI (6'2") and Curry (6'3" on Wikipedia) to be our starting backcourt. That's a fairly small one.
ChicagoCrazy84
11-09-2009, 09:16 PM
I would project KI (6'2") and Curry (6'3" on Wikipedia) to be our starting backcourt. That's a fairly small one.
You think Nolan will lose his starting job to Curry? I love the kid and he's going to be great, but there's no way. Nolan will have worked too hard this year for that to happen, but whatever the case, I guess you're right, but it's not unheard of to have a small backcourt. Nova!
jimsumner
11-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Strongly agree that Nolan Smith is likely to start next year.
K has done quite well with relatively small backcourts, including Dawkins-Amaker, Avery-Langdon, Williams-Duhon, and Duhon-Ewing, none of whom were taller than 6'3".
Edouble
11-09-2009, 09:39 PM
You think Nolan will lose his starting job to Curry? I love the kid and he's going to be great, but there's no way. Nolan will have worked too hard this year for that to happen, but whatever the case, I guess you're right, but it's not unheard of to have a small backcourt. Nova!
I think it could happen. I mean look who he lost his starting job to last year... Paulus!
If I see this new and improved Nolan and I am blown away, I'm sure I will change my mind, but based on the players as I know them now, I'd put Curry in there.
RainingThrees
11-09-2009, 09:39 PM
Strongly agree that Nolan Smith is likely to start next year.
K has done quite well with relatively small backcourts, including Dawkins-Amaker, Avery-Langdon, Williams-Duhon, and Duhon-Ewing, none of whom were taller than 6'3".
I think you could also add Paulus-Redick to those lineups as Redick is measured at 6'3".
Edouble
11-09-2009, 09:42 PM
I think you could also add Paulus-Redick to those lineups as Redick is measured at 6'3".
He was always listed as 6'4". In any case, you could certainly add Wojo-Langdon, one of the smallest of the K era.
FireOgilvie
11-09-2009, 09:47 PM
I would project KI (6'2") and Curry (6'3" on Wikipedia) to be our starting backcourt. That's a fairly small one.
Kyrie says he is 6'3" now and apparently his doctor says he will be 6'5", FWIW. He has decent size for a PG.
RainingThrees
11-09-2009, 09:48 PM
I like our backcourt as it is and if we need to go bigger we have Andre. Any smaller is too small, and perfect example of that was Texas 2 years ago with Augustine and Abrams. Both were under 6' and they did well until they ran into Memphis and that giant lineup. I remember Abrams not being able to get any easy shots the whole game.
Kedsy
11-09-2009, 09:55 PM
Why will we be small? Both Curry and Dawkins are 6'4 I believe and Nolan is 6'2.
Curry (6'3" on Wikipedia)
Curry is listed as 6'1" on GoDuke.com (as well as several other sources). And the few times I've seen him standing on the court he looked a couple inches shorter than Nolan Smith (although obviously my eyeball assessment is nothing close to a scientific evaluation). He is by no definition a big guard.
That doesn't mean he won't succeed (I think he's going to be an excellent player for Duke), but talk about him being 6'3" or 6'4" is erroneous.
graskewicz
11-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Nolan Smith has proved nothing to me as of yet... However, for Duke's sake I hope he has improved as much as people talk. Go Duke!
Newton_14
11-09-2009, 10:17 PM
Nolan Smith has proved nothing to me as of yet... However, for Duke's sake I hope he has improved as much as people talk. Go Duke!
Your opinion will change pretty soon on that. Nolan has taken his game to another level in more than one phase of the game. He will be the engine that makes this team go. Kyle will be the star but Nolan will be the horsepower under the hood.
As for Curry, he shares quite a few traits with his brother. One of which is height. He can't be more than barely 6 foot tall. But he is definitely a player. That backcourt next year is going to be unreal. The sports media has pooh poohed our backcourt since Duhon left but that will come to an end.
And barring injury this year's backcourt will be just fine once Andre gets up to full speed. We have had thinner backcourts that went to final fours.
BlueintheFace
11-10-2009, 01:37 AM
Look for Goodman at Fox to have some positive words for Curry in the near future...
flyingdutchdevil
11-10-2009, 06:08 AM
He was always listed as 6'4". In any case, you could certainly add Wojo-Langdon, one of the smallest of the K era.
Redick has definitely taller than 6'3". I'm over 6'3" and whenever I stood next to him, he looked considerably taller (could be the broad shoulders). I'd say that Redick is probably 6'4" and a half. Yes - it does happen that players are actually taller than listed, although much rarer. Kobe, for instance, is closer to 6'7" than 6'6", but he is always listed as the latter.
RainingThrees
11-10-2009, 06:20 AM
Redick has definitely taller than 6'3". I'm over 6'3" and whenever I stood next to him, he looked considerably taller (could be the broad shoulders). I'd say that Redick is probably 6'4" and a half. Yes - it does happen that players are actually taller than listed, although much rarer. Kobe, for instance, is closer to 6'7" than 6'6", but he is always listed as the latter.
It's all in the shoes. Those shoes often give players an inch or more of height.
sagegrouse
11-10-2009, 06:57 AM
Redick has definitely taller than 6'3". I'm over 6'3" and whenever I stood next to him, he looked considerably taller (could be the broad shoulders). I'd say that Redick is probably 6'4" and a half. Yes - it does happen that players are actually taller than listed, although much rarer. Kobe, for instance, is closer to 6'7" than 6'6", but he is always listed as the latter.
I can't find my post from three-plus years ago, but Redick's stats at the NBA camp were unique in two respects:
1. He was the only player whose height in bare feet was the same (6-4, as I recall) as his height on the roster.
2. He was also the only player whose wingspan (6-2.5) was less than his height. In his honor, Sagegrouse gives out the annual "JJ Redick Flipper Award" to the player with the shortest wingspan relative to height.
sagegrouse
flyingdutchdevil
11-10-2009, 07:21 AM
I can't find my post from three-plus years ago, but Redick's stats at the NBA camp were unique in two respects:
1. He was the only player whose height in bare feet was the same (6-4, as I recall) as his height on the roster.
2. He was also the only player whose wingspan (6-2.5) was less than his height. In his honor, Sagegrouse gives out the annual "JJ Redick Flipper Award" to the player with the shortest wingspan relative to height.
sagegrouse
I prefer the annual "JJ Redick T-Rex Award" :)
Curry is listed as 6'1" on GoDuke.com (as well as several other sources). And the few times I've seen him standing on the court he looked a couple inches shorter than Nolan Smith (although obviously my eyeball assessment is nothing close to a scientific evaluation). He is by no definition a big guard.
That doesn't mean he won't succeed (I think he's going to be an excellent player for Duke), but talk about him being 6'3" or 6'4" is erroneous.
I was just going to say a similar statement. One of the more surprising things from the Pfeiffer game was seeing just how little Curry is (for a college basketball player, of course). Granted, when most of the team is 6'5" or taller, it's easy to look little. But he looked substantially shorter than Scheyer, and noticeably shorter than Smith even from a distance (I didn't have great seats).
But yeah, being 6'1" certainly doesn't prevent him from being a productive wing in college basketball.
airowe
11-10-2009, 11:52 AM
In practice and in the exhibition, Curry played almost exclusively at PG. I think he's versatile enough to play both guard positions but I don't see him starting over Irving (a more natural PG) or Nolan (Senior SG). I think Curry will split time with Irving at point and share PT with Nolan and Andre at SG. Not a bad problem to have.
CEF1959
11-10-2009, 12:29 PM
I see Irving and Nolan as the natural starters with Curry and Dawkins (as sophomores) and Thornton (as a freshman) as valuable contributors off the bench. But the team will work this stuff out in practice and on the court. It's a meritocracy with no guarantees for anyone, and even the non-starters can compete for PT or starting positions as the season goes on.
As airowe points out: 5 quality guards is a good problem to have.
I see Irving and Nolan as the natural starters with Curry and Dawkins (as sophomores) and Thornton (as a freshman) as valuable contributors off the bench. But the team will work this stuff out in practice and on the court. It's a meritocracy with no guarantees for anyone, and even the non-starters can compete for PT or starting positions as the season goes on.
As airowe points out: 5 quality guards is a good problem to have.
Yes - I will definitely not complain about having too many guards on the roster. Especially after this year when we have only 3, and only one who is really suited to defend the point guard position. Five is a good number. We'll be able to apply pressure on both ends of the floor and attack teams in a number of different ways.
rhcpflea99
11-10-2009, 02:15 PM
Nolan believe he is going to have a Gerald Henderson type of year. If Nolan game has improve that much, then he will enter the draft following the season.
BlueintheFace
11-10-2009, 02:18 PM
Nolan believe he is going to have a Gerald Henderson type of year. If Nolan game has improve that much, then he will enter the draft following the season.
Nolan will not enter the draft after this season... regardless of what kind of season he has. I am 99.9% sure about that.
Azdukefan
11-10-2009, 02:18 PM
Nolan believe he is going to have a Gerald Henderson type of year. If Nolan game has improve that much, then he will enter the draft following the season.
Kyrie alluded to this during his ustream last night. I would have to say that there is a better chance Nolan leaves than even Kyle IMO.
Kyrie alluded to this during his ustream last night. I would have to say that there is a better chance Nolan leaves than even Kyle IMO.
Nolan would really have to have a stellar year and he'd have to do it as a pg, I think. He's definitely undersized for a sg in the NBA so he'd definitely have to prove he can be an elite college pg for him to shoot up the draft boards enough to pass Kyle.
roywhite
11-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Kyrie alluded to this during his ustream last night. I would have to say that there is a better chance Nolan leaves than even Kyle IMO.
I'm surprised to hear that; we'll see how it works out.
Honestly, I hope this topic (current players leaving early) can be left alone for a good while:
1. We have yet to start the official 2009/10 season
2. The decision time for early entry is not until late next spring
3. The topic of guys leaving early is generally unpleasant
4. One way or another, we fans have very little control over whether a player decides to go pro early.
I'm surprised to hear that; we'll see how it works out.
Honestly, I hope this topic (current players leaving early) can be left alone for a good while:
1. We have yet to start the official 2009/10 season
2. The decision time for early entry is not until late next spring
3. The topic of guys leaving early is generally unpleasant
4. One way or another, we fans have very little control over whether a player decides to go pro early.
I will say, though, that if we're wondering whether or not Nolan will be back for his senior year come April, it means that he and most likely the whole team, just completed one heck of a season.
BlueintheFace
11-12-2009, 01:47 PM
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2009/11/12/duke_observations_new_orleans_to_go_d3_route_usc_s horthanded_early
Goodman called Curry the best player on the floor... interesting.
Kedsy
11-12-2009, 02:58 PM
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2009/11/12/duke_observations_new_orleans_to_go_d3_route_usc_s horthanded_early
Goodman called Curry the best player on the floor... interesting.
That's a very encouraging article, although not as much now that Mason's out indefinately. Still, to hear that Kyle is good enough to be a national player of the year candidate but that Mason was the most talented player and Seth the best player on the floor bodes well both for the short and long term.
Welcome2DaSlopes
11-12-2009, 04:33 PM
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2009/11/12/duke_observations_new_orleans_to_go_d3_route_usc_s horthanded_early
Goodman called Curry the best player on the floor... interesting.
That's really big considering we have Jon, Kyle, and Nolan.
CEF1959
11-12-2009, 04:41 PM
That comment was based on Goodman's observation of one practice. FWIW. Not saying it's nutty, incorrect, or even a bad predictor for next year; just saying his sample for the observation is pretty limited. Probably best to view it as a statement that Seth Curry is good and leave it there. Gotta love SC's game, no doubt.
Newton_14
11-12-2009, 08:44 PM
That comment was based on Goodman's observation of one practice. FWIW. Not saying it's nutty, incorrect, or even a bad predictor for next year; just saying his sample for the observation is pretty limited. Probably best to view it as a statement that Seth Curry is good and leave it there. Gotta love SC's game, no doubt.
Actually Goodman states in the article that he has seen 12 practices. So he has seen Curry enough to form a solid opinion.
sagegrouse
11-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Actually Goodman states in the article that he has seen 12 practices. So he has seen Curry enough to form a solid opinion.
When I read the article, I thought he meant 12 practices covering 12 different teams. -- sagegrouse
Edouble
11-12-2009, 09:16 PM
When I read the article, I thought he meant 12 practices covering 12 different teams. -- sagegrouse
I took it to mean that as well, plus he states that Curry was the best player on the floor on that particluar (Monday) afternoon.
Newton_14
11-12-2009, 10:15 PM
I took it to mean that as well, plus he states that Curry was the best player on the floor on that particluar (Monday) afternoon.
Ok. Fair enough. He was not real clear but 12 different teams seems more likely.
jipops
11-12-2009, 10:57 PM
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2009/11/12/duke_observations_new_orleans_to_go_d3_route_usc_s horthanded_early
Goodman called Curry the best player on the floor... interesting.
I'm really not buying that. Isn't it interesting how it's always the guy that can't suit up who is always considered the best or one of the best players on the floor.
If Kyle was the one sitting out a year and Seth was in the lineup don't you think Goodman would be writing that Singler was the best player on the floor?
Kedsy
11-13-2009, 12:06 AM
I'm really not buying that. Isn't it interesting how it's always the guy that can't suit up who is always considered the best or one of the best players on the floor.
If Kyle was the one sitting out a year and Seth was in the lineup don't you think Goodman would be writing that Singler was the best player on the floor?
It doesn't really matter if Seth really was the best player on the floor. The fact that Goodman can write it with a straight face means a lot.
And, yes, we heard the same thing about Roshown and Dahntay, but you know what? They both turned out pretty darned good.
pless55
11-29-2009, 10:46 PM
Can anybody give me an update on Seth Curry? News on how he's doing in practice, news stories, has anybody seen him play? Also how tall is he and is he bigger than his brother? Can't wait to see the kid play?
Newton_14
11-29-2009, 10:51 PM
Can anybody give me an update on Seth Curry? News on how he's doing in practice, news stories, has anybody seen him play? Also how tall is he and is he bigger than his brother? Can't wait to see the kid play?
There is quite a bit of information on Seth in threads on the board. The most informative one is likely the thread linked below. Just do a search on his name and you can find all the discussion on this board regarding Seth.
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15373&highlight=Seth+Curry
pless55
11-29-2009, 10:53 PM
I know. But I want some updated information on Curry from recently. Like what's his listed height or can he play point guard?
Duvall
11-29-2009, 10:56 PM
I know. But I want some updated information on Curry from recently. Like what's his listed height or can he play point guard?
His listed height is 6-1 (http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22727&SPID=1845&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=204812443&Q_SEASON=2009). I don't we'll find out if he can play point until next season, and maybe not even then.
ChicagoCrazy84
11-30-2009, 12:58 AM
I don't think I would want Seth to play any point, he is too good of a shooter to play point. If you have a guy like Kyrie running the show and then Ty Thornton off the bench who will probably not look for his own shot much his first couple year's, there is no reason for Seth to play any point. His brother needed to play PG at Davidson because McKillop needed the ball in his hand for them to be successful, especially his senior year. Seth's talent will be better served from the position you see Nolan Smith in now.
Kedsy
11-30-2009, 01:34 AM
I don't think I would want Seth to play any point, he is too good of a shooter to play point. If you have a guy like Kyrie running the show and then Ty Thornton off the bench who will probably not look for his own shot much his first couple year's, there is no reason for Seth to play any point. His brother needed to play PG at Davidson because McKillop needed the ball in his hand for them to be successful, especially his senior year. Seth's talent will be better served from the position you see Nolan Smith in now.
Actually, part of the reason Stephen played point was because that would be his position in the NBA, because of his height. Seth has the same issue, so I expect K to play Seth some at point in order to help him get to the League. Maybe not in 2010-11, but at some point before Seth leaves Duke.
airowe
11-30-2009, 11:30 AM
Here's some open practice footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CueRNW4zJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCUmO9PE75g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY86nK5TKOo&feature=related
And his Freshman Year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3CXon8Ve0
He makes two guys fall down in his Freshman Year video. Hilarious.
NYC Duke Fan
12-23-2009, 10:38 PM
This might have been answered awhile back, but if so I apologize.
Can anyone tell me more about Curry, hopefully by someone who has seen him play. How big is he ?
Is he a shooting guard , a point guard or both? How does he compare with his brother ? Is he as good a shooter as Stephen as good as Dawkins ?
Are we looking at another J.J. Reddick ?
Does he play defense ?
Where do you see him fitting in next year..probably coming off the bench ?
Thank You
Kedsy
12-23-2009, 10:44 PM
This might have been answered awhile back, but if so I apologize.
Can anyone tell me more about Curry, hopefully by someone who has seen him play. How big is he ?
Is he a shooting guard , a point guard or both? How does he compare with his brother ? Is he as good a shooter as Stephen as good as Dawkins ?
Are we looking at another J.J. Reddick ?
Does he play defense ?
Where do you see him fitting in next year..probably coming off the bench ?
Thank You
There is a thread for all things Curry: http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15373&highlight=seth+curry&page=19
G man
02-25-2010, 03:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3CXon8Ve0
He is not the athlete that Andre is, but have we not learned great players do not have to have ridiculous hops just look at our current point guard!
ChicagoCrazy84
02-25-2010, 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3CXon8Ve0
He is not the athlete that Andre is, but have we not learned great players do not have to have ridiculous hops just look at our current point guard!
I've lost count the amount of times I've watched that mix. Watching his crossover and shooting stroke never gets old. Like G Man said, he may not have the athleticism or size, but he will have as much skill as any guard in the country. What I love about him (from what I can tell) is that he can shoot off the dribble, create his own shot, and he is fearless when it comes to making plays.
G man
02-25-2010, 03:43 PM
I've lost count the amount of times I've watched that mix. Watching his crossover and shooting stroke never gets old. Like G Man said, he may not have the athleticism or size, but he will have as much skill as any guard in the country. What I love about him (from what I can tell) is that he can shoot off the dribble, create his own shot, and he is fearless when it comes to making plays.
I think that someone like Curry is going to replace some of the lost scoring from this years squad. I don't only think he will contribute but be a star. The tempo will be much faster next year. This will open up wide three's for both Seth and Andre. I think it will also help the Plumlee's I think they will thrive in a transition type offense. I am very pleased with direction we are heading. I just hope Smith and Singler decide to stay for another year.
jv001
02-25-2010, 03:47 PM
I've lost count the amount of times I've watched that mix. Watching his crossover and shooting stroke never gets old. Like G Man said, he may not have the athleticism or size, but he will have as much skill as any guard in the country. What I love about him (from what I can tell) is that he can shoot off the dribble, create his own shot, and he is fearless when it comes to making plays.
Looking at the videos, he reminds me of his Pop..Great genes..Go Duke!
CrazieDUMB
02-25-2010, 04:34 PM
I think that someone like Curry is going to replace some of the lost scoring from this years squad. I don't only think he will contribute but be a star. The tempo will be much faster next year. This will open up wide three's for both Seth and Andre. I think it will also help the Plumlee's I think they will thrive in a transition type offense. I am very pleased with direction we are heading. I just hope Smith and Singler decide to stay for another year.
Is there anyone on the team next year that can't run? I go crazy thinking what it's going to be like next year with an elite PG pushing the tempo, Smith getting out on the break, Dawk hitting those drive and kick 3's, Curry pickin and poppin and some Plumlee oopin'. If nothing else, next year's team will be FUN.
Saratoga2
02-25-2010, 04:58 PM
What Irving will bring is speed and athleticism but he won't have the experience at the NCAA Div I level to have the ball security and savy that Scheyer has.
What we may have in Curry is a player that can supply some of that, perhaps more than Smith or Singler. He has played a year of ball and has practiced for a year with the very good team. I expect that experience to really help him to be an immediate impact player. The areas I expect that he will excel are ball security, play making and shooting. Hope I am correct.
We will have Irving, Smith, Curry and Thornton(sp) so we should be deep at the point (playmaking guard position.
PhillyDuke
04-05-2010, 12:34 AM
Smith said guarding Curry in practice has made him a better on-ball defender; and he said "when Seth gets back on the court, he's going to be one of the top players in the nation"!!
I think we're going to be in for a real treat when Seth plays next year. I really don't think he's going to sit the bench.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/video/7357363/
oldnavy
04-05-2010, 07:53 AM
Smith said guarding Curry in practice has made him a better on-ball defender; and he said "when Seth gets back on the court, he's going to be one of the top players in the nation"!!
I think we're going to be in for a real treat when Seth plays next year. I really don't think he's going to sit the bench.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/video/7357363/
Love the thought, but I will have to put it on hold until tomorrow!!
We are playing for the NATTY TONIGHT BABY!!!! I LOVE IT!!! GO DEVILS!!
GTHC GTH!!!
Cockabeau
04-05-2010, 09:14 AM
Chad Ford says that Seth is a better athlete:eek: than Stef
rotogod00
04-05-2010, 09:14 AM
Love the thought, but I will have to put it on hold until tomorrow!!
We are playing for the NATTY TONIGHT BABY!!!! I LOVE IT!!! GO DEVILS!!
GTHC GTH!!!
WHAAAAAT? Where?
-bdbd
04-05-2010, 01:40 PM
What Irving will bring is speed and athleticism but he won't have the experience at the NCAA Div I level to have the ball security and savy that Scheyer has.
What we may have in Curry is a player that can supply some of that, perhaps more than Smith or Singler. He has played a year of ball and has practiced for a year with the very good team. I expect that experience to really help him to be an immediate impact player. The areas I expect that he will excel are ball security, play making and shooting. Hope I am correct.
We will have Irving, Smith, Curry and Thornton(sp) so we should be deep at the point (playmaking guard position.
Yeah. As was said on another string, this could be an AMAZING group in the Duke backcourt - positions 1, 2, 3 - the next few years. 'would not be at all surprised to see the following in the starting line-up next year: 1/2 - Irving, 2/1 - Curry , 3/2/1 - Nolan Smith. Also, Dawkins obviously fits into that mix too. With the Plumlees up front, along with Hairston and Felix, even if we do lose Kyle (please nooo!) this will be an incredibly talented team.
hedevil
04-05-2010, 02:01 PM
Don't forget Ryan Kelly.
Don't forget Ryan Kelly.
I think that Ryan Kelly will definitely find a place on this team next year.
Welcome2DaSlopes
04-05-2010, 02:32 PM
I think that Ryan Kelly will definitely find a place on this team next year.
I hope so, he has a special skill set that can be very useful.
CameronBornAndBred
04-05-2010, 03:34 PM
I think that Ryan Kelly will definitely find a place on this team next year.
Ditto to that...you only have to look at Miles' first year and what he's done this season for the comparison.
As for Curry..check out this interview with Nolan and the props he gives Seth.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/video/7357363/
hc5duke
04-05-2010, 04:38 PM
Smith said guarding Curry in practice has made him a better on-ball defender; and he said "when Seth gets back on the court, he's going to be one of the top players in the nation"!!
I think we're going to be in for a real treat when Seth plays next year. I really don't think he's going to sit the bench.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/video/7357363/
This reminds me of similar stories about Dahntay Jones and Jason Williams in 2001 (I think... can't seem to find anything with Google though)
bluedevil2012
04-08-2010, 12:31 PM
Great read on Seth
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/sports/ncaabasketball/03curry.html
“He’s one of the best pure scorers I’ve seen,” said Stephen, 22, the seventh pick of last year’s N.B.A. draft, who is averaging 16.5 points and 5.7 assists a game. “He’s got a knack for just putting the ball in the basket.”
whereinthehellami
04-08-2010, 01:45 PM
I love the comment Curry made on the trophy platform after the Nat'l Ship about the red shirt officially being off. In my mind I see Seth taking off his red shirt and "throwing it on the ground". i feel sorry for any team that wears red! I see a red door and I want it to turn black....
wgl1228
04-09-2010, 10:02 AM
Small dumb question but Seth Curry was considered being on the team this year and gets a ring right?
Bluedog
04-09-2010, 10:29 AM
Small dumb question but Seth Curry was considered being on the team this year and gets a ring right?
I believe so...He's on the roster list:
http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1845&SPSID=22727
phaedrus
04-09-2010, 10:49 AM
Stephen Curry, now a Duke fan:
http://twitter.com/StephenCurry30/status/11700374745
airowe
05-02-2010, 10:21 AM
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/02/1410910/at-duke-a-curry-is-talk-of-the.html
"I knew right away I had to get stronger and put on some weight," Curry said. "When I got here, I was 6-1 and 168 pounds. Right now, I'm 6-2 and 182. The extra size I think has improved my stamina."
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/02/1410910/at-duke-a-curry-is-talk-of-the.html#ixzz0mmXjwf8N
Let's hope he keeps growing!
MisterRoddy
05-02-2010, 10:32 AM
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/02/1410910/at-duke-a-curry-is-talk-of-the.html
Let's hope he keeps growing!
Sounding more and more like his brother every day :D
airowe
05-02-2010, 10:35 AM
Sounding more and more like his brother every day :D
You're not far off. Stephen was 6'1.5", 160 lbs coming out of High School. He's now 6'3", 180 lbs.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1159193
Maybe Seth is just a late bloomer...
oldnavy
05-02-2010, 10:56 AM
You're not far off. Stephen was 6'1.5", 160 lbs coming out of High School. He's now 6'3", 180 lbs.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1159193
Maybe Seth is just a late bloomer...
I just have a feeling about him having a bust out season. Can you imagine a competative guy like that getting to practice each day with his boys, then sit and watch as they win the Natty, I CANNOT IMAGINE how anxious he must be to hit the court for real. I belive we are going to see one motivated, extremely talented young man next year to go along with the rest of the talent.... I for one cannot wait!!!
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/02/1410910/at-duke-a-curry-is-talk-of-the.html
[QUOTE]Curry said. "When I got here, I was 6-1 and 168 pounds. Right now, I'm 6-2 and 182.
Just for comparison, what are Henson's vitals? 6-10, 190?
airowe
05-02-2010, 11:19 AM
Just for comparison, what are Henson's vitals? 6-10, 190?
Heels fans are ecstatic that Henson is up to 203.
hedevil
05-02-2010, 01:22 PM
What I love about this upcoming season is the combination of improvement and potential on the team.
I can't wait to see what improvement all of the returning players (Kyle, Nolan, Plumlees, Kelly, and Dre) make. In addition, I can't wait to see what potential Irving, Curry, Joshua, Felix, and Tyler bring.
We have an entire 6 man team returning, two of which we know what we're gonna get (though Kyle and Nolan likely will come back even better), and four guys who have shown glimpses of how great they can be. If that wasn't enough to get pumped up for, we have a whole new lineup (5) coming in. Three which have great longterm (hopefully immediate) potential for Duke basketball, and two immediate impact players.
I feel like a baby in a candy store, I just can't pick a single player that I'm most eager to see next season. Luckily I don't have to pick just one.;)
But to stay on topic with Seth, he is one of the players that I have the highest expectations for. I predict that he will be a force to be reckoned with.
Cockabeau
05-02-2010, 01:27 PM
JMO, Curry will start from day one.
I have said this before about Scheyer before he even played his first game at DUke.
I am usually good at predicting these things.
Welcome2DaSlopes
05-02-2010, 01:34 PM
JMO, Curry will start from day one.
I have said this before about Scheyer before he even played his first game at DUke.
I am usually good at predicting these things.
So you have Kyle playing the 4 or Kyrie on the bench?
Starter
05-02-2010, 01:35 PM
Curry will start from day one.
We'll see if he will. I think he should.
Cockabeau
05-02-2010, 01:50 PM
Kyrie will start from day one.
If I said it once, I have said it a million times It will be:
KI
Nolan
Curry
Singler
Plumlee
This team is going to own big time.....Curry is just too good of a player......K is too fond of Pressure D.....and the Plumlees are not as good on rotation D or screening to play large amount of PT together on the court. The Plumlees will still get a large chunk of PT.....
Welcome2DaSlopes
05-02-2010, 02:06 PM
Depending on the the type of 4 singler plays I can see that happening, if he still plays more on the wing as a 4 out 1 in O set, I see that as possible.
Duvall
05-02-2010, 02:09 PM
Kyrie will start from day one.
If I said it once, I have said it a million times It will be:
KI
Nolan
Curry
Singler
Plumlee
This team is going to own big time.....Curry is just too good of a player......K is too fond of Pressure D.....and the Plumlees are not as good on rotation D or screening to play large amount of PT together on the court.
Well, a lineup with three guards of 6'2" or less with have its own defensive issues - and it's more likely that the Plumlees will improve their help defense than one of our guards growing another couple of inches.
It will come down to matchups.
hedevil
05-02-2010, 02:24 PM
Personally, I think that when it comes down to end game situations, we'll see Irving, Nolan, Curry, Kyle, and either Plumlee in the game. Ball control and FT shooting will be crucial to closing out.
Do I think the Plumlees will play significant minutes together? Absolutely. Start together? Sometimes. Rotate at the 5? Sometimes. A big question in this equation will be, how big of a contribution will Kelly and Hairston be able to provide at the 4. I can easily see one of the Plumlees in foul trouble when they play significant minutes together. When closing out games, I would think that Kyle might be the better answer at the 4 than Ryan or Joshua, or even one of the Plumlees for that matter.
Man, as great as K is, this is gonna be a tough group to sort. He'll get it done, but man, that's alot of talent to spread around.:)
Nrrrrvous
05-02-2010, 02:38 PM
Just browsing the Media Guide for Seth's Freshman year, and an ESPN2 story...
Some interesting tidbits -
The person he would want to be for a day - Michael Jordan (OK, we'll forgive him this one since he transferred here)
He usually wins in a game of horse against Steph and his dad.
It's about 50/50 when he and Steph play 1 on 1. (Remember, this was coming from high school)
One rule he would change about the game - add a 4 point line. :D:D
His family calls him - Hooli
Oh yeah, and the Media Guide had him listed at 6'3". Hmmm...
VaDukie
05-02-2010, 03:13 PM
4 point line? :eek: Can the season start now? :D
baby-face dawkins
05-02-2010, 03:17 PM
4 point line? :eek: Can the season start now? :D
I agree:D Curry sounds like he will be the real deal
Big Pappa
05-02-2010, 03:20 PM
Kyrie will start from day one.
If I said it once, I have said it a million times It will be:
KI
Nolan
Curry
Singler
Plumlee
I can see this lineup in there occasionally together but not very often and certainly not starting. This would mean not only playing with three guards, it also means three guys on the floor 6'2" or shorter. I just don't see it happening very often.
I just don't see how you can ignore Coach K saying that Kyle will spend most of his time on the perimeter and I don't see how you can sit one of the Plumlees.
Kyrie will start from day one.
If I said it once, I have said it a million times It will be:
KI
Nolan
Curry
Singler
Plumlee
....
It seems like it has been AT LEAST a million times. Why say it again? There is a starting line-up thread for this. It gets frustrating to see this argument raised in EVERY thread.
Cockabeau
05-02-2010, 04:32 PM
It seems like it has been AT LEAST a million times. Why say it again? There is a starting line-up thread for this. It gets frustrating to see this argument raised in EVERY thread.
No one wants to believe me...I see.
Fact #1
The Plumlees are not going to turn into LT and Z overnight
Fact #2
K prefers pressure D. IF he has the horses to play Pressure man-to-man he will do so. He has the horses. He will play this type of defense almost exclusively.
That type of defense cannot exist with a plumlee,plumlee,Singler frontline. Will we see it at times? Yes we will. But the gameplan is bombs away from 3 and Pressure man-to-man. I know K. I know what he wants to do. I have studied the man for 25 years! He plays LT/Z or a Laenttner/Ala Abenaby when no other option is effective.
Part of what made playing big so sucessful for us this year was Z rebounding like a beast and Z/LT screening like beasts and Z/LT rotating on defense. The plumlees are great talents. I love their game. But they arent esp. good at screening and horrible at rotation defense! Singler/Plumlee/Plumlee isnt going to happen!
It gets tiring beating a dead horse. Short of Miles being the next G-man and Mason the next Kareem this lineup will not be feasible. The plumlees will still beast up and play alot of minutes. Singler will be awesome as a hybrid.
And KI,Curry and Nolan will bombs away,slash to the basket and cause mayhem in the passing lanes. We will cut the nets again. The end.
No one wants to believe me...I see.
Fact #1
The Plumlees are not going to turn into LT and Z overnight
Fact #2
K prefers pressure D. IF he has the horses to play Pressure man-to-man he will do so. He has the horses. He will play this type of defense almost exclusively. ...
It gets tiring beating a dead horse. ... The end.
I am NOT disagreeing with you. In particular, I agree that you are overly repeating yourself and beating a dead horse. Particularly when there are other threads dedicated to the issue.
Big Pappa
05-02-2010, 04:49 PM
No one wants to believe me...I see.
Fact #1
The Plumlees are not going to turn into LT and Z overnight
Fact #2
K prefers pressure D. IF he has the horses to play Pressure man-to-man he will do so. He has the horses. He will play this type of defense almost exclusively.
That type of defense cannot exist with a plumlee,plumlee,Singler frontline. Will we see it at times? Yes we will. But the gameplan is bombs away from 3 and Pressure man-to-man. I know K. I know what he wants to do. I have studied the man for 25 years! He plays LT/Z or a Laenttner/Ala Abenaby when no other option is effective.
Part of what made playing big so sucessful for us this year was Z rebounding like a beast and Z/LT screening like beasts and Z/LT rotating on defense. The plumlees are great talents. I love their game. But they arent esp. good at screening and horrible at rotation defense! Singler/Plumlee/Plumlee isnt going to happen!
It gets tiring beating a dead horse. Short of Miles being the next G-man and Mason the next Kareem this lineup will not be feasible. The plumlees will still beast up and play alot of minutes. Singler will be awesome as a hybrid.
And KI,Curry and Nolan will bombs away,slash to the basket and cause mayhem in the passing lanes. We will cut the nets again. The end.
First, I agree with BD80 that this is in the wrong thread. Be that as it may, there are so many things wrong with what you said I can't begin to address them all. I'll just highlight the bolded part for now. How do you have any idea what the gameplan is? Do you know Coach K personally and talk to him about strategy? What does "I've studied him for 25 years" mean; that you have watched Duke for a long time?
gumbomoop
05-02-2010, 05:08 PM
Personally, I think that when it comes down to end game situations, we'll see Irving, Nolan, Curry, Kyle, and either Plumlee in the game. Ball control and FT shooting will be crucial to closing out.
Do I think the Plumlees will play significant minutes together? Absolutely. Start together? Sometimes. Rotate at the 5? Sometimes. A big question in this equation will be, how big of a contribution will Kelly and Hairston be able to provide at the 4. I can easily see one of the Plumlees in foul trouble when they play significant minutes together. When closing out games, I would think that Kyle might be the better answer at the 4 than Ryan or Joshua, or even one of the Plumlees for that matter.
Man, as great as K is, this is gonna be a tough group to sort. He'll get it done, but man, that's alot of talent to spread around.:)
1. End-game situations - Good point. I do wonder whether K just might do a bit more of the O-D substitution thing in last 2-3 minutes of tight games [assuming Duke plays many tight games, thus even giving us a chance to see whether he employs this pattern], in order to get a D-specialist-rebounder into the game for 30 seconds. But he tends to want good FT shooters in late-game, so maybe we will not see this O-D switch stuff. Never mind.
2. Given the stall-ball we're bound to see a few times [the few times it's close??], I could easily see KS at the 4 in last 3-5 minutes of those games, because he sure looks to be a better FT shooter than either MP. He'll be even fresher for end-game FTs than this year, having gotten a bit more rest.
3. "tough to sort... lot of talent to spread around" - Again, good point. The talent and depth in next year's squad presents K with both an interesting "problem" [i.e, a "problem" of too much talent], but also an interesting puzzle to work through, to fit the pieces together in most effective combinations, depending on rhythms of early-mid-late-season, game-opponent-situations, players-who-mesh-best-with-each-other considerations. K the puzzle-master - he really does seem to be just that, yes? - has some intriguing puzzles to solve next year. Different from last year's puzzles.
You just have to think that K's having so much fun these days: still giddy at NC, ready for nat'l team work this summer [I assume there's something afoot that he'll be in middle of], then young guys in Fall learning the ropes from great seniors and other returnees, with absolutely every single one of them ready to rip.
hedevil
05-02-2010, 05:36 PM
AGREED!
You hinted at the stall ball (when games are close). Hopefully there won't be many games close enough to consider it (stall ball), but even the optomist that I am, I'm sure we will see it occassionally. Darn it. Can't we just beat everyone by 20?:D
Bay Area Duke Fan
05-02-2010, 05:40 PM
JMO, Curry will start from day one.
I have said this before about Scheyer before he even played his first game at DUke.
I am usually good at predicting these things.
Scheyer did not start his sophomore year (2007-08).
Welcome2DaSlopes
05-02-2010, 09:31 PM
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/02/1410910/at-duke-a-curry-is-talk-of-the.html
devildeac
05-02-2010, 09:54 PM
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/02/1410910/at-duke-a-curry-is-talk-of-the.html
Man, that article looks familiar. Oh, wait a minute, I read the n&o this AM.:rolleyes:;)
Welcome2DaSlopes
05-02-2010, 09:55 PM
My bad, I didn't know if it was posted already, sorry.
devildeac
05-02-2010, 10:03 PM
My bad, I didn't know if it was posted already, sorry.
Sorry, the point was not about your link. The point was about the carolina, err, charlotte observer, printing a tudor piece and the Raleigh n&o printing a bunch of articles over the last year or so (since Luciana Chavez left) from the charlotte writers. I'm surprised they covered that much about Duke in a positive light.
stickdog
05-03-2010, 02:30 AM
Singler/Plumlee/Plumlee isnt going to happen!
Scheyer-Dawkins-Singler-Mason-Miles (x19) 57-28 (+29)
Scheyer-Smith-Singler-Mason-Miles (x67) 245-222 (+23)
Smith-Dawkins-Singler-Mason-Miles (x7) 25-18 (+7)
oldnavy
05-03-2010, 06:33 AM
[QUOTE=airowe;404707]http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/02/1410910/at-duke-a-curry-is-talk-of-the.html
Just for comparison, what are Henson's vitals? 6-10, 190?
Maybe 190. I would guess more like 180... if that.
oldnavy
05-03-2010, 06:35 AM
Heels fans are ecstatic that Henson is up to 203.
Wow, I have to say that he carries his weight well! ;)
sagegrouse
05-03-2010, 10:08 AM
No one wants to believe me...I see.
Fact #1
The Plumlees are not going to turn into LT and Z overnight
Fact #2
K prefers pressure D. IF he has the horses to play Pressure man-to-man he will do so. He has the horses. He will play this type of defense almost exclusively.
.
I think you have cornered the market in the use of non sequiturs.
"Fact #1," although true, is trivial. Fact #2 is argumentative not factual, and I'm not sure what it means.
And why these two assertions, taken together, imply that only one Plumlee will start is beyond my grasp.
The Plumlees are both highly mobile, although neither is as quick as the much smaller LT. And they need to improve their decision-making at both ends of the court. There was a reason they played only a few minutes against Butler.
My guess is that both Plumlees will start at the beginning of the season, but that the lineup will go through a number of iterations through November and December. Then, who knows?
sagegrouse
Kedsy
05-03-2010, 12:09 PM
No one wants to believe me...I see.
Fact #1
The Plumlees are not going to turn into LT and Z overnight
Fact #2
K prefers pressure D. IF he has the horses to play Pressure man-to-man he will do so. He has the horses. He will play this type of defense almost exclusively.
That type of defense cannot exist with a plumlee,plumlee,Singler frontline. Will we see it at times? Yes we will. But the gameplan is bombs away from 3 and Pressure man-to-man. I know K. I know what he wants to do. I have studied the man for 25 years! He plays LT/Z or a Laenttner/Ala Abenaby when no other option is effective.
Part of what made playing big so sucessful for us this year was Z rebounding like a beast and Z/LT screening like beasts and Z/LT rotating on defense. The plumlees are great talents. I love their game. But they arent esp. good at screening and horrible at rotation defense! Singler/Plumlee/Plumlee isnt going to happen!
It gets tiring beating a dead horse. Short of Miles being the next G-man and Mason the next Kareem this lineup will not be feasible. The plumlees will still beast up and play alot of minutes. Singler will be awesome as a hybrid.
And KI,Curry and Nolan will bombs away,slash to the basket and cause mayhem in the passing lanes. We will cut the nets again. The end.
It's not a matter of belief. You have an opinion. Others have a different opinion. Repeating your opinion over and over doesn't make it more (or less) believable.
Your points regarding the downside of playing both Plumlees together have some validity (assuming they don't improve over what we saw last year, which is actually a somewhat unlikely assumption). They were often spotty defenders and they fouled too much and struggled with their decision-making this past season. On the other hand, if they improve their defensive skills between now and October (just as likely, if not more, than the alternative), they are certainly mobile and talented enough to guard most teams' 4 and 5 in a pressure man-to-man scheme.
But whether or not you are spot on with your analysis of the downside of starting both Plumlees, you have consistently failed to acknowledge that your preferred starting five also has a glaring downside -- that being the idea that a 6'2" player would be guarding a forward on the other team that will be 6'6" to 6'8" in many cases. Would we be able to overcome that problem? Probably, in some games. But doubtfully in all games. For example, I doubt that lineup would be particularly successful guarding next year's UNC team.
My guess is the lineup you suggest will be used in the appropriate circumstances and the lineup you deride will also be used when appropriate. Which will start and which will be used most often is completely up in the air right now, and depends on a lot of factors, including how ready Andre, Ryan, Josh, Carrick, and Tyler are to contribute. To suggest at this point in the year that there's only one right answer to this question is kind of ridiculous, dead horse or no.
airowe
05-03-2010, 12:15 PM
I think it's more important to note who will be finishing the game, rather than starting.
For most games, including two versus the pUNCs, I suspect the finishing lineup will resemble this:
PG: Tyler Thornton
SG: Casey Peters
SF: Carrick Felix
PF: Josh Hairston
C: Todd Zafirovski
Kedsy
05-03-2010, 12:18 PM
I think it's more important to note who will be finishing the game, rather than starting.
For most games, including two versus the pUNCs, I suspect the finishing lineup will resemble this:
PG: Tyler Thornton
SG: Casey Peters
SF: Carrick Felix
PF: Josh Hairston
C: Todd Zafirovski
Touché, sir.
hedevil
05-03-2010, 12:53 PM
Airowe- I hope you're right:)
My guess is the lineup you suggest will be used in the appropriate circumstances and the lineup you deride will also be used when appropriate. Which will start and which will be used most often is completely up in the air right now, and depends on a lot of factors, including how ready Andre, Ryan, Josh, Carrick, and Tyler are to contribute. To suggest at this point in the year that there's only one right answer to this question is kind of ridiculous, dead horse or no.
Well said. I'm quite sure that we'll play a lot of big lineups with Singler at the 3. I'm quite sure that we'll play plenty of small lineups with Curry/Dawkins at the 3. I'm quite sure that we'll see the Plumlees on the floor quite a bit together. As such, deriding one lineup in favor of another is missing the point.
I expect we'll start the year with the Plumlees and Singler all starting. It could work out differently than that. But either way, we'll see plenty of time with both the big and the small lineup.
DukieInBrasil
05-03-2010, 01:46 PM
I think it's more important to note who will be finishing the game, rather than starting.
For most games, including two versus the pUNCs, I suspect the finishing lineup will resemble this:
PG: Tyler Thornton
SG: Casey Peters
SF: Carrick Felix
PF: Josh Hairston
C: Todd Zafirovski
Are you suggesting that this line-up will provide the stultifying pressure D K demands on all possessions? There is just no way that a guy who was only put on the team as a walk-on mid-season can beat out Singler, let alone Kelly or the Plumlees, for those pressure-packed ultra-late mop-up minutes?... er, wait, we'll be winning right? What the h3ll am i talking about? Is that a magic pony over there? Hey, come back over here!!!....(crickets...)
DukieInBrasil
05-03-2010, 01:53 PM
I think that Seth would be a very valuable player to have in slow-down ball, and therefore good for lots of second-half situations. He's got a good 3pt shot, good FT% and he can act as a secondary or tertiary ball-handler. Seth may not start, although I think he could definitely earn it, but he'll see a lot of time on the floor and in a variety of situations. I think he'll be a versatile player and therefore very valuable.
JohnGalt
05-05-2010, 02:17 AM
I expect we'll start the year with the Plumlees and Singler all starting. It could work out differently than that. But either way, we'll see plenty of time with both the big and the small lineup.
Sort of like how Czyz started vs UNC-G this year?
Dukeface88
05-05-2010, 03:16 AM
Sort of like how Czyz started vs UNC-G this year?
Hopefully everyone has learned not to play over the summer so we don't repeat that particular fiasco.
On the other hand, given how much Nolan improved, maybe it was worth it.
oldnavy
05-05-2010, 06:26 AM
I think it's more important to note who will be finishing the game, rather than starting.
For most games, including two versus the pUNCs, I suspect the finishing lineup will resemble this:
PG: Tyler Thornton
SG: Casey Peters
SF: Carrick Felix
PF: Josh Hairston
C: Todd Zafirovski
LOVE IT! Hope they get about 6 mpg each time!
Big Pappa
05-05-2010, 02:57 PM
Hopefully everyone has learned not to play over the summer so we don't repeat that particular fiasco.
On the other hand, given how much Nolan improved, maybe it was worth it.
Good point, I would say that the NC speaks for itself.
ajgoodfella7
05-19-2010, 10:46 PM
Nice little Seth article written by big brother Stephen:
http://twitpic.com/1nc7df
flyingdutchdevil
05-20-2010, 07:06 AM
I am a huge fan of the Currys. I haven't seen Seth play (outside of highlights), but the way that the brothers carry themselves and always play hard makes me smile.
Can't wait for Curry to step on the floor after 20 months without playing NCAA ball. He's gonna be hungry!
Daniel tosh
05-20-2010, 09:25 AM
For all of you who are in the Charlotte area,Seth will be on 610 wfnz the fan at 9:25 am
airowe
05-20-2010, 12:56 PM
Seth Curry gets his radio time:
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/story/7637287/
More confirmation of the uptempo pace and ball pressure D to come next year.
Faison1
05-20-2010, 02:28 PM
From pictures, he certainly looks like a nice kid. Glad to have him on the team.
He may say that he's used to being compared to his bro, but that MUST be a big burden. I hope we, as fans, don't have unjust expectations......or , on the flip-side, that he lives up to them....
whereinthehellami
05-20-2010, 02:54 PM
I love his attitude and the fact that he has been practicing with the guys for over a year now. That should only help the team chemistry.
UrinalCake
05-20-2010, 03:05 PM
So in the link from ajgoodfella7, Stephen claims that Seth has NEVER beaten him one-on-one. But in the radio interview, Seth says that he beats Stephen "about 50-50." I think we need to settle this once and for all. Let's get them to play each other in Cameron!
yancem
05-20-2010, 03:12 PM
So in the link from ajgoodfella7, Stephen claims that Seth has NEVER beaten him one-on-one. But in the radio interview, Seth says that he beats Stephen "about 50-50." I think we need to settle this once and for all. Let's get them to play each other in Cameron!
I agree and then maybe Stephen can run some pickup with the rest of the team. Can't hurt to have an extra nba talent to run with!
Dukefan4Life
05-21-2010, 02:16 AM
Seth is going to be amazing for us next season! The kid can flat out play. If he gets the minutes like i think he should..i would not be surprised to see him get 15 plus a game
mattman91
06-15-2010, 12:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIIyO1iaxC4
Seth Curry interview. Check out this guys channel...there are some videos from the Chris Paul camp
MisterRoddy
06-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Seeing reports of Seth's "knuckleball" shots, I don't think it will be a problem as most of his shots go in anyway but do any of you know any historically good knuckleball shooters whether it be in the NCAA or NBA?
NSDukeFan
06-15-2010, 03:43 PM
Seeing reports of Seth's "knuckleball" shots, I don't think it will be a problem as most of his shots go in anyway but do any of you know any historically good knuckleball shooters whether it be in the NCAA or NBA?
Tim Hardaway is the first name that came to my mind.
Jeff Frosh
06-15-2010, 04:02 PM
Seeing reports of Seth's "knuckleball" shots, I don't think it will be a problem as most of his shots go in anyway but do any of you know any historically good knuckleball shooters whether it be in the NCAA or NBA?
Our very own John Harrell, rest in peace, had a very distinct knuckleball shot.
As far as screwball shots are concerned, Jon Scheyer's the man.
davidson
06-23-2010, 02:37 PM
Just wanted to let you know that Seth joined big brother Steph at the nightly pick-up game at Davidson on Monday night.
He was spectacular.
While Davidson players and Steph were the most popular topics among the observers, everyone seemed to agree that most bball fans are going to be shocked at how good Seth is. The exceptions are Davidson fans, who have a bit of experience with the Curry family, and the Duke team which has practiced with him for a year.
I just hate the thought of Sonya sitting at Cameron instead of Belk Arena.
SilkyJ
06-23-2010, 03:06 PM
Just wanted to let you know that Seth joined big brother Steph at the nightly pick-up game at Davidson on Monday night.
He was spectacular.
While Davidson players and Steph were the most popular topics among the observers, everyone seemed to agree that most bball fans are going to be shocked at how good Seth is. The exceptions are Davidson fans, who have a bit of experience with the Curry family, and the Duke team which has practiced with him for a year.
I just hate the thought of Sonya sitting at Cameron instead of Belk Arena.
Very cool! Thanks for letting us know. The hype around Seth is certainly building and this upcoming year is going to be very exciting for us Dukies.
And we won't mind seeing Sonya courtside for a few games :D
DukeBlueNV
06-23-2010, 04:42 PM
Just wanted to let you know that Seth joined big brother Steph at the nightly pick-up game at Davidson on Monday night.
He was spectacular.
While Davidson players and Steph were the most popular topics among the observers, everyone seemed to agree that most bball fans are going to be shocked at how good Seth is. The exceptions are Davidson fans, who have a bit of experience with the Curry family, and the Duke team which has practiced with him for a year.
I just hate the thought of Sonya sitting at Cameron instead of Belk Arena.
The more I hear things like this I wonder how K is going to be able to manage to get enough minutes for all the talent on this team. As cliche as it the phrase is: it's a good problem to have but I really hope Seth gets the mins he needs to contribute like we are seeing that he can.
ACCBBallFan
06-23-2010, 05:05 PM
The more I hear things like this I wonder how K is going to be able to manage to get enough minutes for all the talent on this team. As cliche as it the phrase is: it's a good problem to have but I really hope Seth gets the mins he needs to contribute like we are seeing that he can. Another case where managing all the egos on Team USA will help.
If you can tell Dwayne Wade, Deron Williams et al that they are not starting and keep them happy with the way you sub them in and way team wins, should be able to do same with Seth and Dre or a Plumlee.
Even if both Plumlees start, their tendency to go for highlight reel blocks will create some fouls and enable more PT for others.
strawbs
06-23-2010, 05:43 PM
I just hate the thought of Sonya sitting at Cameron instead of Belk Arena.
perhaps the most underrated part of curry coming to duke is that his mom sonya replaces laury scheyer as the hottest mom on the team :)
perhaps the most underrated part of curry coming to duke is that his mom sonya replaces laury scheyer as the hottest mom on the team :)
Only the most underSTATED.
We are discouraged from discussing the players' moms on this board. But at least a few of us know what you're talking about.
DevilHorns
10-07-2010, 06:00 PM
Good Seth Curry read. (http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2010/10/seth-curry-made-selfish-decision-to.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
"Curry sat out last season due to the NCAA's transfer rules, but he practiced with the team every day. His role? To lead the scout team. To play the role of Greivis Vasquez or Malcolm Delaney or Ishmael Smith while preparing Duke's eligible players for their next game. And he did it going against one of the best back courts in the country in Jon Scheyer, an all-american last season, and Nolan Smith, a preseason all-american this year. Its impossible not to improve going head-to-head with that kind of talent and experience on a daily basis.
"Last year I was on the [scout] team all year," Curry said. "Trying to run the offense against the starters, I learned how to be a leader and run a team all year. That's definitely going to benefit me."
"Playing against guys at this level in practice everyday, you get to the paint and you're finishing over 6'10", 6'11" guys. Being crafty in the paint, shooting my floaters when I go in the paint, that's the biggest thing [I've improved on]."
Curry also had a chance to improve his body. Not only did he grow an inch or two -- he told me he is 6'2 1/2" now -- but he added some much needed strength.
"I got a lot stronger and gained more weight. That's all going to help me throughout the year, through the grind of the season," Curry said."
"Duke won the national title last year. And while you and I and every Duke fan in the country recognizes the contribution Curry made and the importance of his role within the Duke program last season, the people whose opinion ultimately matters -- the NCAA -- doesn't. Per NCAA rules, Curry did not get a ring last season. Not getting a ring had to hurt, but being forced into a spectator's role for a national title run was worse."
Interesting that the NCAA doesn't award rings to transfer players in their year of ineligibility. I think that decision should be up to the coach.
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