Microsoft says don't use Internet Explorer

[CameronBornAndBred]

There is a security flaw in IE that they can't fix, so they say use something else. (http://www.scmagazineuk.com/Microsoft-encourages-users-to-switch-to-other-browsers/article/122909/) That's pretty funny.

[riverside6]

In fairness, Microsoft didn't make that statement, security advisors did.

[CameronBornAndBred]

In fairness, Microsoft didn't make that statement, security advisors did.
Speaking to the BBC website, John Curran, head of Windows at Microsoft UK, said: “It would not be advisable to send people from one vulnerability to multiple vulnerabilities.”

--He's addressing the idea of going to a different version of IE than 7. Meaning don't use any of them.

[riverside6]

It certainly could be or it could be "creative journalism". I tend to lean toward the latter.

The question asked of the Microsoft rep could have been "Would you suggest your users switch to other browsers?"

Note that the title of the article was originally "Microsoft encourages users to switch to other browsers" has since been changed to "IE users encouraged to switch to other browsers".

[alteran]

There is a security flaw in IE that they can't fix, so they say use something else. (http://www.scmagazineuk.com/Microsoft-encourages-users-to-switch-to-other-browsers/article/122909/) That's pretty funny.

Waaaaaay ahead of them on this.

IE is a security disaster, for a lot of reasons. I only use it on sites where I have to.

[hughgs]

Waaaaaay ahead of them on this.

IE is a security disaster, for a lot of reasons. I only use it on sites where I have to.

Are you using Firefox? There's an extension that allows IE rendering within Firefox.

[DukeUsul]

Are you using Firefox? There's an extension that allows IE rendering within Firefox.

Yeah but that just calls the IEXPLORE COM object (or somesuch) I think and embeds it in the Firefox window - so you're still using IE. Not sure it will get around the vulnerability.

[Acymetric]

I've been saying the same thing for years.

[hughgs]

Yeah but that just calls the IEXPLORE COM object (or somesuch) I think and embeds it in the Firefox window - so you're still using IE. Not sure it will get around the vulnerability.

Hmm, so it does. Thanks for the info.

Even so, it doesn't change the my suggestion. Rather than starting a whole new window you can use IE Tabs within Firefox. Granted it doesn't avoid IE, but at least you're not starting up a whole new window.

[billybreen]

Hmm, so it does. Thanks for the info.

Even so, it doesn't change the my suggestion. Rather than starting a whole new window you can use IE Tabs within Firefox. Granted it doesn't avoid IE, but at least you're not starting up a whole new window.

There's pretty much no difference between the two, in terms of memory overhead and resource utilization on your machine. Agree, though, that it's a fine and fairly unobtrusive solution if you need it.

But the real question is, are there really still sites that require IE in 2008? For shame.

[CameronBornAndBred]

But the real question is, are there really still sites that require IE in 2008? For shame.
A big one. Windows Update.

[DukeUsul]

There's pretty much no difference between the two, in terms of memory overhead and resource utilization on your machine. Agree, though, that it's a fine and fairly unobtrusive solution if you need it.

But the real question is, are there really still sites that require IE in 2008? For shame.

We have some corporate apps that only work in IE. So I do use it from time to time. Also for Windows Update.

[hughgs]

There's pretty much no difference between the two, in terms of memory overhead and resource utilization on your machine. Agree, though, that it's a fine and fairly unobtrusive solution if you need it.

But the real question is, are there really still sites that require IE in 2008? For shame.

I think the original concern was security, though I agree that in general a web browser is a web browser. For my money, I like the ability to add extensions to ignore cookies, disallow pictures, etc.

But, there are plenty of sites where the page doesn't render correctly making them hard to navigate. And as others have mentioned Microsoft Update requires IE.

[billybreen]

A big one. Windows Update.

What is Windows? Tee Hee.

But yeah, Windows Update. If you can't count on that site being secure, that's a substantial problem.

[billybreen]

But, there are plenty of sites where the page doesn't render correctly making them hard to navigate.

I just think that's super sad. Those providers are telling more than 1 in 5 people they don't value their patronage. It's not terribly difficult to make your site work across multiple browsers. Some super cool companies even provide easy, cheap, no-install-required tools for testing content in multiple browsers (http://www.browsercam.com/Default2.aspx). ;)

[alteran]

Are you using Firefox? There's an extension that allows IE rendering within Firefox.

Thanks. Yes, I'm already using that extension (I actually think there's several). I do web development and flipping between rendering engines at will is invaluable.

[alteran]

I just think that's super sad. Those providers are telling more than 1 in 5 people they don't value their patronage.

Thanks for mentioning that-- I haven't specifically tested most of my IE-only sites for a while in Firefox. They all work in Firefox now.

No more IE for me-- except for compatibility testing.

[HaveFunExpectToWin]

Have anyone switched full time to Chrome? While there are some extensions I'd miss by switching completely over, I've seen faster load times and a general nimbleness to Chrome that has been lost in Firefox.

[Bluedog]

But the real question is, are there really still sites that require IE in 2008? For shame.

GoDuke.com used to look like crap in Firefox....was really annoying. They've improved it, though.

[billybreen]

Patch is available now (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/12/17/ie-december-out-of-band-release.aspx). If you are a Windows user, update ASAP.

[juise]

Have anyone switched full time to Chrome? While there are some extensions I'd miss by switching completely over, I've seen faster load times and a general nimbleness to Chrome that has been lost in Firefox.

I use it here at work because I like Incognito mode (not that I'm going to inappropriate sites, our filters would catch that, I just don't like leaving history on the machine). I love it so far. I am eagerly anticipating the OSX release so I can use it at home.

[RainingThrees]

Patch is available now (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/12/17/ie-december-out-of-band-release.aspx). If you are a Windows user, update ASAP.

are people getting loads of viruses?

[YmoBeThere]

I would like to use IE...but it isn't working anymore. So, I uninstalled and downloaded and reinstalled. And still nothing. Looks like I'm switching to Firefoox.

[CameronBornAndBred]

I would like to use IE...but it isn't working anymore. So, I uninstalled and downloaded and reinstalled. And still nothing. Looks like I'm switching to Firefoox.
What part doesn't work? Does it say page not found, or page cannot be displayed?

[YmoBeThere]

What part doesn't work? Does it say page not found, or page cannot be displayed?

Neither...I fixed it. I had to add it back to my firewall:rolleyes::D