Any punk who thinks pork < beef...

[Lord Ash]

... is a fool.

While I love a good steak (the ribeye is on the grill as we speak) the pork product is superior.

Pork Tenderloin
Spare ribs
Pork chops
Ham

annnnddddd

BACON!

The best. Here is a shot of my meat, with appropriate decoration.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1038/porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpg

[TNTDevil]

... is a fool.

While I love a good steak (the ribeye is on the grill as we speak) the pork product is superior.

Pork Tenderloin
Spare ribs
Pork chops
Ham

annnnddddd

BACON!

The best. Here is a shot of my meat, with appropriate decoration.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1038/porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpgOH MY! A Zealot!

[A-Tex Devil]

While I would admit the pig may be a more "versatile" animal, I have to defend my base here. Let's do a bit of head to head shall we? I am doing this off of the top of my head, so the matchups probably aren't quite as perfect as if I had more free time, but let's give this a shot...

Filet Mignon > Pork Tenderloin. This one is a blow out.

Pork ribs > Beef Ribs. I love me some beef ribs about the size of a forearm, but you can't beat the meat falling completely off the bone of good slow smoked pork rib. It's probably closer for me than others, but I'll concede this to the pig.

Ribeye Steak > Pork Chop. I've had excellent pork chops in my time. In fact, I'd say the single best pork chop I have ever had was better than the best Ribeye. That being said, I've had tons of mediocre to bad pork chops at good establishments. Can't say the same thing for the Ribeye which is consistently awesome.

Deli Roast beef > Deli ham. This is personal opinion (what here isn't?), but a good roast beef sandwich beats a good ham sandwich 100% of the time.

Slow Smoked Brisket > Pulled Pork. This is controversial, I know, but if you give me the choice, I go with the brisket every time.

Bacon > Beef Jerky. Fair enough.

4 to 2 for beef. Debate over. ;-)

[mph]

... is a fool.

While I love a good steak (the ribeye is on the grill as we speak) the pork product is superior.

Pork Tenderloin
Spare ribs
Pork chops
Ham

annnnddddd

BACON!

The best. Here is a shot of my meat, with appropriate decoration.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1038/porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpg

Sir, I acknowledge your call-out and I assure you that I will be back to defend the virtues of the cow after putting the kids to bed and butchering a side of beef.

After we hash this out, we really need to post a DBR OTB poll - Cow v. Pig.

[UVaAmbassador]

... is a fool.

While I love a good steak (the ribeye is on the grill as we speak) the pork product is superior.

Pork Tenderloin
Spare ribs
Pork chops
Ham

annnnddddd

BACON!

The best. Here is a shot of my meat, with appropriate decoration.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1038/porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=porkitswhatsfordinnerkv9.jpg

Alright, first of all, this started off as a discussion of which animal was better. When factoring in milk, cheese, butter, sour cream, leather, etc., the cow is clearly superior to the pig, who, besides contributing its flesh, well, I guess it will eat anything and has some upside for people who like watching animals wallow in their own feces.

Nonetheless, I'll defend beef over pork. Steak is a many splendored thing, and ground beef gives us many things, like the burger and taco. Also, while pulled pork, pork ribs, etc are excellent forms of BBQ, the beef brisquet, done properly, may be the greatest of any food the good Lord has chosen to bless us with. In fact, I'm pretty sure I heard a rumor that it was the actual basis for the Greek mythology story of ambrosia.:D

I love the pig for breakfast foods, but pork tenderloin (yummy as it is) ultimately bows to its beef counterpart, and the pork chop can't hold a candle to the t-bone steak.

[UVaAmbassador]

While I would admit the pig may be a more "versatile" animal, I have to defend my base here. Let's do a bit of head to head shall we? I am doing this off of the top of my head, so the matchups probably aren't quite as perfect as if I had more free time, but let's give this a shot...

Filet Mignon > Pork Tenderloin. This one is a blow out.

Pork ribs > Beef Ribs. I love me some beef ribs about the size of a forearm, but you can't beat the meat falling completely off the bone of good slow smoked pork rib. It's probably closer for me than others, but I'll concede this to the pig.

Ribeye Steak > Pork Chop. I've had excellent pork chops in my time. In fact, I'd say the single best pork chop I have ever had was better than the best Ribeye. That being said, I've had tons of mediocre to bad pork chops at good establishments. Can't say the same thing for the Ribeye which is consistently awesome.

Deli Roast beef > Deli ham. This is personal opinion (what here isn't?), but a good roast beef sandwich beats a good ham sandwich 100% of the time.

Slow Smoked Brisket > Pulled Pork. This is controversial, I know, but if you give me the choice, I go with the brisket every time.

Bacon > Beef Jerky. Fair enough.

4 to 2 for beef. Debate over. ;-)

Good point, I totally forgot about roast beef.:D

[rthomas]

Not a great fan of bacon, BUT I like big butts. and I can not lie.
You other brothers can't deny...


Butt's on the grill, smoked. with a vinegar and hot pepper sauce.

[UVaAmbassador]

Ok, just an observation, but so far, all the PPB left leaners are weighing in for pork while the PPB right leaners are supporting beef.

Also, I reject this thread on the basis that its thwarting my attempt to accomplish the unprecedented feat of hijacking a PPB thread to the OTB instead of the other way around.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Slow Smoked Brisket > Pulled Pork. This is controversial, I know, but if you give me the choice, I go with the brisket every time.

As you live in Texas, this is to be expected. I have had some darned good brisket at some out the way places in TX and I'm not a huge fan.

But I was at a pig pickin' last weekend and it just does not get any better than that! Brisket can't come close. Mmmmmm... pork.

[rthomas]

Ok, just an observation, but so far, all the PPB left leaners are weighing in for pork while the PPB right leaners are supporting beef.

Also, I reject this thread on the basis that its thwarting my attempt to accomplish the unprecedented feat of hijacking a PPB thread to the OTB instead of the other way around.

Cow is for bitter, gun toting people and pig is for the elitest. Hey, UVaAmbassador, I bet you don't even know how many cows you own. And that last cow, did you really sell it on Ebay? :)

[UVaAmbassador]

Cow is for bitter, gun toting people and pig is for the elitest. Hey, UVaAmbassador, I bet you don't even know how many cows you own. And that last cow, did you really sell it on Ebay? :)

Actually, I was just thinking that it was evidence that all the left leaning people were unpatriotic, not red blooded, beef eating Americans, and that they were filled to the ears with their own crap!:D

P.S. I do award you kudos for a funny joke, though.

[rthomas]

...and that they were filled to the ears with their own crap!:D


That would be chicken. Wait a minute...Do chickens have ears?

[2535Miles]

Call me Switzerland, because I have serious problems picking a side in this debate. A-Tex Devils and UVA make noble attempts at justifying their positions, and I can find many strengths in their arguments. However, I find the debate the exhausting and ultimately pointless.

Dead cows and dead pigs rule. Kill them. Smoke them. Cut them up. Grill them. I will eat them both and I will love every bite.

[allenmurray]

In the state where the pig rules you have Duke University and the iced tea comes to the table already sweetened (and in some places automatically - you know you are in a good BBQ joint when the bring tea to the table without asking). In the state where the Cow rules there is no Duke University AND they don't sweeten their iced tea (they bring it to the table with sugar, as though sugar will dissolve in cold tea - the imbiciles). Enough said.

[UVaAmbassador]

Call me Switzerland, because I have serious problems picking a side in this debate. A-Tex Devils and UVA make noble attempts at justifying their positions, and I can find many strengths in their arguments. However, I find the debate the exhausting and ultimately pointless.

Dead cows and dead pigs rule. Kill them. Smoke them. Cut them up. Grill them. I will eat them both and I will love every bite.

Um, welcome to the PPB, where exhausting and ultimately pointless is not just the norm, but the ideal!:D

[Lord Ash]

A few things;

I appreciate the beef. Truly, I do. I eat more beef than anything else, and I value a good steakhouse like NO ONES business. Here is my dinner, a one and a half pound ribeye, just consumed maybe 20 minutes ago.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/970/itswhatsfordinnereb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A nice marinate of rosmary, sage, garlic, pepper, and balsamic vinegar. Fantastic, especially the bits and pieces nestled RIGHT up against the fat...

Nonetheless; lets break it down.




Filet Mignon > Pork Tenderloin. This one is a blow out.


Okay, hardly a blowout. While I love a nice filet, without a proper marbling of fat sometimes I almost find them... hmm... dare I say this... overrated? A good pork tenderloin, cooked properly so as not to dry it out, can be flavored in SO many ways... flattened and rolled with spices in the middle, marinated in ginger and soy... I will give you your beefy victory, but in no blowout sir.




Filet Mignon > Pork Tenderloin. This one is a blow out.

Pork ribs > Beef Ribs. I love me some beef ribs about the size of a forearm, but you can't beat the meat falling completely off the bone of good slow smoked pork rib. It's probably closer for me than others, but I'll concede this to the pig.



Beef ribs are great, but cannot beat the pork. 1-1



Ribeye Steak > Pork Chop. I've had excellent pork chops in my time. In fact, I'd say the single best pork chop I have ever had was better than the best Ribeye. That being said, I've had tons of mediocre to bad pork chops at good establishments. Can't say the same thing for the Ribeye which is consistently awesome.


No problem there; it is easy enough to dry a pork chop out. 2-1 beefy goodness.




Deli Roast beef > Deli ham. This is personal opinion (what here isn't?), but a good roast beef sandwich beats a good ham sandwich 100% of the time.


No way, no how. Maybe Osama Bin Laden would agree, but anyone else with a brain would IMMEDIATELY give victory to a smokey, tasty ham. So congrats, you and Osama will be great buddies, eating your roast beef together. So 2-2, and shame on you for siding against America.




Slow Smoked Brisket > Pulled Pork. This is controversial, I know, but if you give me the choice, I go with the brisket every time.


Something here is smoked, and it isn't the brisket. Pulled pork is a great sandwich option OR a great platter option. I love some good tender brisket, especially as it gets a great texture in the way the flesh shreds, but no way. 3-2 porky pig.




Bacon > Beef Jerky. Fair enough.


And here you go. You might as well have posted....

Bacon > Filet Mignon, Ribeye steak, Deli Roast Beef, Slow Smoked Brisket, AND (notice; not "or") Beef jerky. Bacon is the chosen of God, as long as you are not one of our middle eastern brethren.

So. Counting bacon as it should be counted, it seems the score is 1,321,003 - 2, porky pig. Have fun with Osama and your roast beef sandwich.

[Lord Ash]

In the state where the Cow rules there is no Duke University AND they don't sweeten their iced tea (they bring it to the table with sugar, as though sugar will dissolve in cold tea - the imbiciles).

Glad someone else said it... that one has always killed me. All I end up with is a sugary sweet ice cube or two.

[UVaAmbassador]

In the state where the pig rules you have Duke University and the iced tea comes to the table already sweetened (and in some places automatically - you know you are in a good BBQ joint when the bring tea to the table without asking). In the state where the Cow rules there is no Duke University AND they don't sweeten their iced tea (they bring it to the table with sugar, as though sugar will dissolve in cold tea - the imbiciles). Enough said.

While I understand why the "Duke trump card" argument works on this board, your logic is flawed.:D

[allenmurray]

I have a good friend who is vegetarian. He eats no meat or seafood. He does eat bacon. He told me that when he decided to quit eating meat he ony did so after redefining bacon as a vegetable. For him, life was simply not worth living without bacon. There is no beef product that compares to bacon (not that crap that goes on sale at the local grocery store for $1.99 per pound. Go to a butcher shop - or even Whole Foods - and get some real bacon. It will kick the pottymouth!pottymouth!pottymouth! of any beef product.

[Lord Ash]

I have a good frined who is vegetarian. He eats no meat or seafood. He does eat bacon. He told me that when he decided to quit eating meat he ony did so after redefining bacon as a vegetable. For him, life was simply not worth living without bacon. There is no beef product that compares to bacon (not that crap that goes on sale at the local grocery store for $1.99 per pound. Go to a butcher shop - or even whole foods - and get some real bacon. It will kick the pottymouth!pottymouth!pottymouth! of any beef product.

You are a good man, Allen, and as much as it hurts me to say this about a veggie, he is a good man too.

Bacon is Gods gift.

My father in law actually gave me eight pounds of gourmet bacon a Christmas ago. He is a good, dear man.

[hc5duke]

Oblig. Simpsons (http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F03.html) reference:

Homer: Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute. Lisa honey, are you saying you're *never* going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad! Those all come from the same animal!
Homer: [Chuckles] Yeah, right Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.



Pork ribs > Beef Ribs. I love me some beef ribs about the size of a forearm, but you can't beat the meat falling completely off the bone of good slow smoked pork rib. It's probably closer for me than others, but I'll concede this to the pig.
[drool] you had me at Brisket... As for ribs, I would argue that Korean BBQ Beef ribs > any pork ribs you can find.


4 to 2 for beef. Debate over. ;-)
The count is now 5-to-1 in favor of beef. Game, blouses.

[UVaAmbassador]

I have a good frined who is vegetarian. He eats no meat or seafood. He does eat bacon. He told me that when he decided to quit eating meat he ony did so after redefining bacon as a vegetable. For him, life was simply not worth living without bacon. There is no beef product that compares to bacon (not that crap that goes on sale at the local grocery store for $1.99 per pound. Go to a butcher shop - or even whole foods - and get some real bacon. It will kick the pottymouth!pottymouth!pottymouth! of any beef product.

Alright, seriously. I call schenanegans on your friend's claim to being a vegitarian. Get your brooms!!!

[rthomas]

A few things;

I appreciate the beef. Truly, I do. I eat more beef than anything else, and I value a good steakhouse like NO ONES business. Here is my dinner, a one and a half pound ribeye, just consumed maybe 20 minutes ago.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/970/itswhatsfordinnereb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



What is that white, kinda clear stuff? Not a veggie, I hope!!:eek::What are you? A vegetarian?

[UVaAmbassador]

Game, blouses.

Do pancakes come in beef flavor?:D

[Lord Ash]

Only the most manly of veggies; the onion!

Chopped up and wrapped in tin foil, and doused in ceaser dressing, of all things. Give it 20 minutes or so on the grill, and BAM. Instant excuse to tell your mother you ate all your veggies, while it still vaguely feels like you only had two different meats for dinner.

BTW; here is my blog with a few of my meals. I'll add more eventually.

Click here for food (http://lordashramshouseofwar.blogspot.com/search/label/food)

Oh, and btw; bacon scratch-and-sniff suit OWNS you.

http://nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/baconsuit.jpg

[hc5duke]

maybe one of the mods can add a poll?

[allenmurray]

Alright, seriously. I call schenanegans on your friend's claim to being a vegitarian. Get your brooms!!!

I though it was a pretty bogus claim as well. However, I have great respect for his decision as well as his magical way of turning bacon into a vegetable.

[Lord Ash]

Anything that gets someone eating bacon is magical, by definition.

www.anythingthatgetssomeoneeatingbaconismagical.co m (http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/)

[OldPhiKap]

Can't we all just get along?

Fish sucks and chicken is weak.

[mph]

As you live in Texas, this is to be expected. I have had some darned good brisket at some out the way places in TX and I'm not a huge fan.

But I was at a pig pickin' last weekend and it just does not get any better than that! Brisket can't come close. Mmmmmm... pork.

I love BBQ of every variety and I'll admit that I'd eat pulled pork seven days a week. It's great.

That said, I've eaten BBQ from many of the top rated places for each major style (NC, Memphis, KC, and Texas) and I've enjoyed steaks at some of the finest steakhouses in this great country, and I can say without a doubt that the finest piece of meat I've ever tasted is the Brisket from Kruez Market in Lockhart, TX. It will temporarily make you forget that other types of barbecue even exist and I guarantee you won't consider defiling it by covering it in sauce. You'd sooner put ketchup on a fillet. I don't go to Austin or San Antonio without making a trip.

We are dangerously close to needing a Duke v Kentucky thread on the EKB.

[Dr. Rosenrosen]

Ladies and gentlemen... problem solved. I give you the bacon burger:

http://www.peppersandsmoke.com/

[EarlJam]

Bacon is Gods gift.



As the poster formerly known as "Bacon," I must agree completely.
:cool:

-Earl Porkjam

[colchar]

Here is a shot of my meat,



You really should choose your words more carefully...

[EarlJam]

You really should choose your words more carefully...

My Lordy. No kidding! I'd get banned for that in a spleenbeat!

-EJ

[The Gordog]

Ok, just an observation, but so far, all the PPB left leaners are weighing in for pork while the PPB right leaners are supporting beef.

Also, I reject this thread on the basis that its thwarting my attempt to accomplish the unprecedented feat of hijacking a PPB thread to the OTB instead of the other way around.

I'm a left leaner and I support the cow in this debate. Since the meat aspect has been well discussed already let me add - just think of tall the things you can't make without milk:

Ice Cream (!)
Pancakes
Yogurt Smoothies
White Russians, Mudslides, and half dozen other mixed drinks
Alfredo sauce
I could go on...

[UVaAmbassador]

White Russians

mmmmm...caucasians.

The dude abides.

[rthomas]

I prefer goat cheese to cow cheese.

[2535Miles]

mmmmm...caucasians.

The dude abides.
I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude.

[hudlow]

Everything that was good in pork has been bred out of the porkers. When pork became "the other white meat" it was turned into a white, smoothly textured homogeneous, low fat, low cholesterol, low taste meat that doesn't resemble anything close to what it was just 25 years ago when it was pre-hybrid pigs.

A pork chop just ain't what it used to be.

Search out some pork that is raised from a non-hybrid stock, you'll be glad you did.

But a good ribeye is hard to beat...

[Lord Ash]

Just thought I would share tonights porky meal; good old fashioned bangers and mash, with a good onion gravy. Fried the bangers in a pan, took them out and replaced them with butter and onions, cooked those a bit, and when golden I put in the beef gravy and brought to a boil for a minute. Took it off the heat, dropped in the bangers, served over homemade mash. Delicious.

We really need a "share your dinner" thread.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9009/smallbangersandmashwp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[EarlJam]

Just thought I would share tonights porky meal; good old fashioned bangers and mash, with a good onion gravy. Fried the bangers in a pan, took them out and replaced them with butter and onions, cooked those a bit, and when golden I put in the beef gravy and brought to a boil for a minute. Took it off the heat, dropped in the bangers, served over homemade mash. Delicious.

We really need a "share your dinner" thread.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9009/smallbangersandmashwp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Awesome. Great work!

I'd love to share a photo of my meal tonight but I already ate it. Anyone got a photo of BillyBreen?

-EarlJam

[hc5duke]

...bangers and mash...

Mrs. Featherbottom: O-kay, who'd like a banger in the mouth? Right, I forgot, here in the States, you call it a *sausage* in the mouth.
Michael: We just call it a sausage.

[Turk]

I'm too far away from good BBQ, but I do have a few local options for a good Italian roast pork sammich... slow-cooked with rosemary, garlic, and other secret spices, served on a crusty long roll with broccoli rabe and extra sharp provolone, (long hot peppers optional for some but mandatory for me...)

mmmm.... mmmmm....

I thank cow for all her wondrous gifts when tucking into a perfectly grilled steak, juicy homemade burger, or cold thick milkshake. Surely she has earned her place in the heavens for all time.

But at the End of Days, I must declare my true loyalty and worship at the altar of pig. Oink.

[devildeac]

I love BBQ of every variety and I'll admit that I'd eat pulled pork seven days a week. It's great.

That said, I've eaten BBQ from many of the top rated places for each major style (NC, Memphis, KC, and Texas) and I've enjoyed steaks at some of the finest steakhouses in this great country, and I can say without a doubt that the finest piece of meat I've ever tasted is the Brisket from Kruez Market in Lockhart, TX. It will temporarily make you forget that other types of barbecue even exist and I guarantee you won't consider defiling it by covering it in sauce. You'd sooner put ketchup on a fillet. I don't go to Austin or San Antonio without making a trip.

We are dangerously close to needing a Duke v Kentucky thread on the EKB.

Sounds like you have been talking to ricks68:D. We need to take a DBR trip to Texas sometime. Maybe the DUAA could sponsor one sometime instead of outrageously priced excursions to Europe or tropical islands:o.

[mph]

Sounds like you have been talking to ricks68:D. We need to take a DBR trip to Texas sometime. Maybe the DUAA could sponsor one sometime instead of outrageously priced excursions to Europe or tropical islands:o.

I'd love to enjoy some Texas 'que and a few beers with some DBR friends!

I actually ordered Kreuz's brisket for a family BBQ a couple of years ago and it was good (although not nearly as good as getting it straight off the butcher block), but boy was it expensive. You could order 20 pounds of brisket and the cost/pound would still be very high due to the packaging and FedEx shipping costs. I cold have just about bought a plane ticket to Austin. No joke.

[devildeac]

I'd love to enjoy some Texas 'que and a few beers with some DBR friends!

I actually ordered Kreuz's brisket for a family BBQ a couple of years ago and it was good (although not nearly as good as getting it straight off the butcher block), but boy was it expensive. You could order 20 pounds of brisket and the cost/pound would still be very high due to the packaging and FedEx shipping costs. I cold have just about bought a plane ticket to Austin. No joke.

Hmm, let's see. A plane trip to Austin, rental car/taxi, a carry on bag, 20-30 pounds of brisket, a few sides... wonder if it would be worth it;)

[allenmurray]

As someone who has fammily in Texas I do enjoy a good brisket. While not quite up to the standards of Kruez market, the brisket at the Q-Shack in Durham is really good. It is only 4 miles from Wallace Wade.

http://www.theqshackoriginal.com/

[Channing]

As someone who has fammily in Texas I do enjoy a good brisket. While not quite up to the standards of Kruez market, the brisket at the Q-Shack in Durham is really good. It is only 4 miles from Wallace Wade.

http://www.theqshackoriginal.com/

as a somewhat practicing member of the tribe, I have to weigh in for beef.

As a side note - there is a law in Israel that prohibits raising pigs on the land ... so farmers have built platforms about a foot off the ground and they raise their pigs on the platforms.

[UVaAmbassador]

Hmm, let's see. A plane trip to Austin, rental car/taxi, a carry on bag, 20-30 pounds of brisket, a few sides... wonder if it would be worth it;)

Having tasted said brisket, I assure you its a close, CLOSE call.:)

[Lord Ash]

As a side note - there is a law in Israel that prohibits raising pigs on the land ... so farmers have built platforms about a foot off the ground and they raise their pigs on the platforms.


Wow... rules lawyering with GOD? Ehhhhh... yeah, good luck with THAT one. :)

[hc5duke]

As a side note - there is a law in Israel that prohibits raising pigs on the land ... so farmers have built platforms about a foot off the ground and they raise their pigs on the platforms.
Better solution:
http://www.isit20.com/membres/bart/2171_spider-pig_home.jpg

[2535Miles]

Better solution:
http://www.isit20.com/membres/bart/2171_spider-pig_home.jpg
Who could eat a spider pig? :eek:

[hc5duke]

Better solution:
http://www.isit20.com/membres/bart/2171_spider-pig_home.jpg
doh looks like the pic won't load unless you go to the site first...
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=19&pictureid=222